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Old 10-03-2014, 11:55 PM   #131 (permalink)
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to the muppet faced no talent hall of fame?
Well, I mean if we are to include everyone then she must get a chance. The standards are so high today as it is with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, what difference would it make?
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:01 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Like I said, be clearer on your points and false accusations won't be made.

I was pretty clear with my points regarding the statement you posted.

You should not falsely make a claim that I said something that I clearly did not say.

Just because you might disagree with my opinion does not give you the right to boldly make a claim that I said something that I clearly did not say.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:09 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Because how else would you be able to put acts in without choosing them over other acts unless you put them all in as soon as they become eligible?
This was not what you were referring to in your last post


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So everybody should go in at the same time?

Those are very different points. So I am a bit confuse with the point you are trying to make because I never imply this at all.

I am referring to the way they snub acts that they nominate themselves not every single other act that is not nominated because they might not be eligible.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:11 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Just because you might disagree with my opinion does not give you the right to boldly make a claim that I said something that I clearly did not say.
So now you're making the assumption that I disagreed with your statement without me actually saying that I disagreed with your statement. See the problem?
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:12 AM   #135 (permalink)
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@Soulfower So is there no possibility that the Rock 'N' Roll Hall of Fame might stick to it's theme for once? Or is it because it went beyond that a few times that it's impossible and because they once or twice inducted non-rock acts into the HOF that they're exhibiting an outright hatred towards disco?
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:17 AM   #136 (permalink)
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To be fair, the logic that you used regarding the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame boils down to the fact that they've inducted non-rock acts into the hall before, so they have no credibility.
That is not the logic I used. What I said was that they have no credibility because they are biased in terms of who they choose to induct. It is clearly not an exclusive rock oriented organization anymore because they have inducted non rock acts but they insist on snubbing certain acts over others based on their own agenda or political criteria.

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This could easily be read as "let's induct them all and leave no room for redemption on the part of RNRHOF to induct rock acts." Why induct a rock act over a disco act? Those stupid and biased bastards. I can't believe how hateful they are towards disco, those Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame inductors.
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If it's such a ridiculously biased form of the media (and rightfully so, since it focuses on an ENTIRELY different genre of music), then why do you keep pointing to that as your fact?
I am not posting it as a fact. I am using it as an example to support why Disco is underrated. I have used other examples as well not just this one.


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Is it because you're afraid to be wrong? Had Urban provided me the facts that he attempted to beat into your skull multiple times I would have retracted my original statement because it's okay to change your opinion based on new facts. Not everybody can know everything about music, you and I are no different.

Tl;dr it's time to cut the bull****, Soulflower.
I think you should take your own advice.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:19 AM   #137 (permalink)
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They snubbed Donna Summer for over a decade until they finally inducted her when she died. Her induction was bittersweet because they only did it because she died.
If that was true then Whitney would be inducted the same year along with Donna Summer. There is no rhyme or reason to who they induct. Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens died the same day but were inducted 15 years apart.

I don't get the Disco argument. Disco was a fad or a trend (depending how you feel about it) that happen during the late 70s. There weren't many artists or bands that were strictly Disco for the sake of Disco. And some of the biggest names in Disco were cross overs from R&B and bands that were either from Rock or Funk camps that release Disco songs. Donna Summer even though she was dubbed Queen of Disco, really was artist that had many styles R&B, Pop, Gospel, etc. Gloria Gaynor felt that Disco ruined her career, because she was initially an R&B singer and she was pinned as a Disco artist and was passed over cause of that. Barry Gibbs vehemently denies that the Bee Gees were a Disco band. And a lot of musicians were critical of it because they took the rhythms found in Soul and Funk and made it straight 4/4 dance beat.
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So now you're making the assumption that I disagreed with your statement without me actually saying that I disagreed with your statement. See the problem?

No because I never said that you specifically made that statement.

It would have been a problem if I had said, "Ki you said that you disagreed with my statement". I did not do that.

I simply expressed an opinion about how you derived to your assumption which I am technically entitled to. I am entitled to my opinion.
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That is not the logic I used. What I said was that they have no credibility because they are biased in terms of who they choose to induct. It is clearly not an exclusive rock oriented organization anymore because they have inducted non rock acts but they insist on snubbing certain acts over others based on their own agenda or political criteria.



No it could not.



I am not posting it as a fact. I am using it as an example to support why Disco is underrated. I have used other examples as well not just this one.




I think you should take your own advice.
So because they abandoned their main theme of rock 'n' roll in the past they should ignore it in the future? I'm trying really hard to make your vague points clearer, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:20 AM   #140 (permalink)
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This thread has reached it's point for me. I'm done.
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