Why do people blame Nirvana for killing Hair Metal?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-02-2014, 03:18 PM

New Romanticism lasted just as long as disco and sold a shit ton of records.
Shall we induct A Flock Of Seagulls too?

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

No, Soulflower, you aren't mistaken. That drummer is indeed Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters. I really don't know much about Nirvana, but maybe Nevermind would be a good starting point? It's their most famous.

Thanks! I thought I recognized him lol I can't believe I did not know that.

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

In Utero and Nevermind are both excellent albums. If you can only get one I'd pick choose Nevermind.

I've actually never listened to Bleach or Incesticide though so maybe someone who knows more about them could make a better suggestion for ya.

Thanks!

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels

Nirvana was big before Cobain died and there sound was refreshing and different than what was big the previous 6 years. Hair metal was already going stale. Nirvana came along at the right time.
I think Nirvana was overrated on a personal note. There were to many horrible songs in their catalog and most people jumped on the bandwagon. AMG originally gave Bleach one star but after Nirvana got big Bleach was all of a sudden a five star album.

Interesting.

I really like them though!

But you are probably right, they did not deserve to get inducted before Chic in the RHOF.

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

New Romanticism lasted just as long as disco and sold a shit ton of records.
Shall we induct A Flock Of Seagulls too?

lol

Comments like this is why I argue Disco is underrated. Disco bands and singers were just as technical with their instrumentation, experimentation and compositions just as rock bands and I would argue even more with certain songs.

I like Rock but it is overrated.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-02-2014, 03:27 PM

Nile Rodgers worked on something like 7 of the top 10 selling albums of 84 or 85 (I forget exactly which) including Madonna, Bowie, Duran Duran, Power Station, INXS, pretty much a who's who of that era.
Hell he worked with Daft Punk & Pharrell last year and they were 2 of the biggest selling artists of the past 12 months.

This is his recognition right there, I really don't know why you invest so much attention to some award ceremony nobody really gives a flying fuck about.

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Nile Rodgers worked on something like 7 of the top 10 selling albums of 84 or 85 (I forget exactly which) including Madonna, Bowie, Duran Duran, Power Station, INXS, pretty much a who's who of that era.
Hell he worked with Daft Punk & Pharrell last year and they were 2 of the biggest selling artists of the past 12 months.

This is his recognition right there, I really don't know why you invest so much attention to some award ceremony nobody really gives a flying fuck about.

lol

But I wouldn't really define Nile Rogers as JUST Disco.

He is too versatile and eclectic of an artist to just box him as a Disco artist.

I don't care about the RHOF either but I think it is worth mentioning the type of artists they induct over others since the RHOF is a big part of the industry and since this discussion is on the type of artists/genres the industry praises over others, its definitely worth mentioning.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-02-2014, 03:46 PM

I can honestly predict that nobody cares one iota that Peter Gabriel, Hall & Oates or Linda Ronstadt are going in. I've not seen a single thing written about it, I doubt I will after it's happened either. I doubt that 14 year old kids are going to rush out and buy Sledgehammer or Maneater because they suddenly become cool.
They'll buy Nirvana records but they would have done that regardless of this hall of fame because kids that age listening to music are drawn to a band like Nirvana.

Serious question, do you follow European club culture?

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-02-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I can honestly predict that nobody cares one iota that Peter Gabriel, Hall & Oates or Linda Ronstadt are going in. I've not seen a single thing written about it, I doubt I will after it's happened either. I doubt that 14 year old kids are going to rush out and buy Sledgehammer or Maneater because they suddenly become cool.
They'll buy Nirvana records but they would have done that regardless of this hall of fame because kids that age listening to music are drawn to a band like Nirvana.

Serious question, do you follow European club culture?

Love, it doesn't matter whether kids or the general public likes Diso music or not. The fact of the matter is, the music industry does not praise or credit the Disco singers and artists for their contributions because they feel Disco is not a serious musical genre. Just because kids don't care about it does not mean Disco artists don't deserve credit for their contributions.

No I do not follow them, why do you ask?

Key · 10-02-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

Love, it doesn't matter whether kids or the general public likes Diso music or not. The fact of the matter is, the music industry does not praise or credit the Disco singers and artists for their contributions because they feel Disco is not a serious musical genre. Just because kids don't care about it does not mean Disco artists don't deserve credit for their contributions.

I'm pretty sure you can see them as featured artists on the record they are a part of and sometimes even in the title of the song they are featured in.They tend to always get credit.

10-02-2014, 03:18 PM	#71 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	New Romanticism lasted just as long as disco and sold a shit ton of records. Shall we induct A Flock Of Seagulls too? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-02-2014, 03:27 PM	#76 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Nile Rodgers worked on something like 7 of the top 10 selling albums of 84 or 85 (I forget exactly which) including Madonna, Bowie, Duran Duran, Power Station, INXS, pretty much a who's who of that era. Hell he worked with Daft Punk & Pharrell last year and they were 2 of the biggest selling artists of the past 12 months. This is his recognition right there, I really don't know why you invest so much attention to some award ceremony nobody really gives a flying fuck about. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-02-2014, 03:46 PM	#78 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I can honestly predict that nobody cares one iota that Peter Gabriel, Hall & Oates or Linda Ronstadt are going in. I've not seen a single thing written about it, I doubt I will after it's happened either. I doubt that 14 year old kids are going to rush out and buy Sledgehammer or Maneater because they suddenly become cool. They'll buy Nirvana records but they would have done that regardless of this hall of fame because kids that age listening to music are drawn to a band like Nirvana. Serious question, do you follow European club culture? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.