I really should add that to my list. I enjoyed both albums about the same.

This was actually my first album for them that I listened too. Something about the vocals just stayed with me.

So you don't respect people putting a good album at number one because they don't like it for the right reason? Oh, that's still stupid as ****.

I completely got why you said that. You think people are liking it just to join a trend. Ever think it's actually that it's a trend because people actually like it? I'm not butt hurt or offended, I'm just stating the fact that your criteria for a respectable list is stupid. It runs on hipster logic and hipster logic is very illogical. Don't have to sugar coat your statement, just like I won't sugar coat the fact that your statement is stupid. Plus, you did sugar coat your original statement. You originally said that you couldn't take a list seriously that puts Kendrick at #1 now you're claiming that you question a list that puts Kendrick at #1. Now if it offends you that I can tear apart your horrible logic, that 's on you. BTW, if you didn't know by now I can be really really petty about arguments. But when I know I'm right... and it makes for good conversation.

Boo ****ing hoo. Nobody gives a ****.

^^^

Wait people are still arguing about this. For ****'s sake, just talk about the top albums of 2015 again. I came here to grow my listening list not banter about this stupid pointless argument about putting an album at number one for the sake of popularity. Get over it already.

The fact he even made the response above shows he didn't really read my initial post. Every little thing needs to be spelled out because they don't think about anything contextually. TBAP's nearly complete dominance on most of the major lists I've seen this year says way more to me about marketing and how the the music being marketed plays into a political climate than it does about the actual musical interests of the person listing it. There are some other points I had to elaborate on this (since I study a lot of this stuff in detail due to my educational background), but I know when I'm wasting my breath.

On another note, going back over your list Identity...I actually find it interesting that The Color Before The Sun is there. It's the poster child for a "mixed reception" this year, but I actually enjoyed it more than the last few outings from Claudio and co.

^^^^

Oh you are talking about my honorable mentions list.

I won't go into too much detail because I am going to review that album in my journal. All I will say is that I found myself disagreeing with a ton of reviews for that record. Like I never let reviews influence my opinion on an album after I already have listened to it so I just saw the 5s 6s and 7s having dumb reasons for hating on the record. Thus I felt that the majority of the mixed reception for the album was kinda silly.

Oh. Well let me be the first to welcome you to Musicbanter, then.

I sorta walked into that one. I understand that this kinda thing happens. I've been reading it for a while on here. I probably assumed that this petty argument would get resolved rather quickly. Oh well I'm prepared for next time.

Another honorable mention that actually came out last week.

https://totom.bandcamp.com/album/kanye-of-the-stone-age

This mashup record is probably one of the best I have ever heard. Easily a standout for this year.

Just because you point your debate with me towards somebody else doesn't mean you're not debating still. Just means that you're trying to create a facade. I mean, does he really give a **** about your rebuttal? No. So if you don't want to argue then, uh, don't argue. Also, everything you said is exactly what I said you were doing. Dismissing the opinion because you think it's a trend. Also your sad attempt at ethos does not validate your ****ty logic or your opinions. Even with your educational background you're logic is still ****ty. I already know I'm wasting my breath. You have already back tracked and lied, but I'm still willing to do it. When I smell **** I point it out, it's my character flaw.

Matrix, this argument has nothing to do with you. So don't whine about bickering when you were the one who jumped in. To me, the argument is not pointless. The point I want to reach is where he realizes his flawed and bigoted logic then grow from it. The best thing to avoid the argument is to actually avoid the argument. Otherwise you're wearing the same shoes me.


Trollheart, in defense of Yorke the two times I've seen him get into arguments is not over opinions, it's over people disrespecting his opinions. The messed up part is that Frownland, the moderator, is always there to intentionally instigate.

I took a year break from this site. Glad to see the drama's not gone. ;)

Just to quickly respond, it's not that he disagreed with Anteater (or anyone did) it's the way he did. There was no reasoned argument, no attempt to respect him. If he had said "Wow that's a weird way to think" or "I don't agree with that" or something, but he flew almost into a foam-mouthed rage, it seemed, throwing out f-bombs IN HIS FIRST POST on the subject. I don't feel that's acceptable. Of course anyone can disagree with anyone, but there has to be a bit of respect. If there are asterisks in your post, then the chances are that a) you're making a joke or b) you're insulting someone. YorkeDaddy has always been like this (ask anyone who's been here more than six months); he always flies off the handle at the slightest provocation. I thought he was getting better. Guess I was wrong.

As to his jibe at me, yes, I do tend to lose it occasionally too, but in general, so far as I can recall, I don't throw the f-bomb or the c-bomb and I usually end up, when I calm down, feeling rather silly and perhaps even having to apologise, though not always. I get the impression YD just sits, simmers and gets more angry with every post. This is not healthy. It's not after all even an important argument: he doesn't agree with Ant, Ant doesn't agree with him.
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Edit: I have little to add to the actual discussion as everyone knows I don't listen to albums in the same ways you guys do, but anyone who has missed listening to this should rectify and perhaps amend their list afterwards. That is all.
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The Black Ryder --- The Door Behind the Door

And suddenly any semblance of a ****storm with me atm is literally all on Trollheart, the irony is just too juicy

Literally saying "this is not healthy" in comparison to his ****storm-starting solely because he arbitrarily finds my word choice worse. What utter nonsense

^What he said :)
***(for Trolhearts suggesting of The Black Ryder)

So many special snowflakes this time of year.

The thread should have ended after I posted my objective list.

Obviously trying to trigger people, 3/10 trolling attempt there G-dude

But hey at least that's a higher score than I'd give Ultraviolence (lol jk thats prolly a 3/10 too)

What the ****ing **** is ****ing wrong with using the ****ing f-bomb and ****ing c-bomb a whole ****ing lot? Doesn't necessarily mean I'm ****ing flying off the god damn handle, or that I'm ****ing insulting some ****. Doesn't even ****ing mean that I'm ****ing making a ****ing joke (although I just might ****ing be). Doesn't ****ing mean ****. ****-all. You can be completely ****ing rational and say **** all the ****ing time, or you can be a major ****ing league ****ing ******* who never says **** at all, but still is a major ****ing league ****ing *******.

Again, another tirade made that has nothing to do with the point I made about cultural context in my original post. If the concept of people making arbitrary lists isn't something that applies to you, why even bother continuing this discussion? If you want to argue with me then your going to have to stop jumping on buzzwords and look at the whole point other than one sentence. Go play your stupid games elsewhere if you don't have anything to say to my original point. You can leave your personal insults and your many, many assumptions at the door. At this point, I'll happily recommend you to PM me if you have nothing better to do.

Anyone else have a fun top 10 list to share?

It's got nothing to do with your word choice. It's the way you approach people. I would have thought that was obvious at this point.

You seem to be confused. When I approach someone I am polite and respectful. On the flipside, when I see someone making imbecilic elitist statements on an internet message forum I'm going to call them out on it because such types of communication are why forums exist.

I'm going to make an attempt at a list. I still have some other albums to listen to so this may change but at the moment it looks like this:

10. Natalie Prass --- Natalie Prass
9. Paradise Lost --- The Plague Within
8. Iron Maiden --- The Book of Souls
7. Panopticon --- Autumn Eternal
6. Half Moon Run --- Sun Leads Me On
5. Shattered Skies --- The World We Used to Know
4. Drudkh --- A Furrow Cut Short
3. Blush --- Lifelines
2. Funeris --- Funereal Symphonies
1. The Black Ryder --- The Door Behind the Door

Good,list I'll have to check out some when I get home ☺

I'm putting together a Powerpoint presentation of my Top 10 list to share with my Rock & Roll History students. I've chosen one song from each album as highlights.

I wish I was that cool, but I've been teaching this course for a decade at a university here in Japan. :)

I absolutely hate that movie because The Residents are placed under the "prog" tag instead of the "?" subgenre with Zappa, Can, and Beefheart. That's one of the three or four things about the movie that I disagreed with and overshadowed everything I like about the movie. 2/10

What's the movie?

School of Rock


I honestly felt that this year was amazing for music....and there are still albums i'm really looking forward to...specifically the new Baroness which is out next week

i was able to reduce my list of 40 albums to 23

Top 23 albums of 2015
23. Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat - To Live Vicariously
22. Halshug - Blodets Band
21. Carter Tutti - Carter Tutti Plays Chris & Cosey
20. Lana Del Rey - Honeymoon
19. Cherubs - 2 Ynfynyty
18. Björk - Vulnicura
17. Ufomammut - Ecate
16. Thee Oh Sees - Mutilator Defeated At Last
15. Ouch My Face - Bunyip
14. Chelsea Wolfe - Abyss
13. Marriages - Salome
12. Allerseelen - Terra Incognita
11. Jenny Hval - Apocalypse, girl
10. Poison Idea - Confuse and Conquer
09. Coleen Green - I Want To Grow Up
08. Pigs - Wronger
07. Deafheaven - New Bermuda
06. Creepoid - Cemetery Highrise Slum
05. Hammerhead - New Directionz
04. Built to Spill - Untethered Moon
03. Title Fight - Hyperview
02. Low - Ones and Sixes
01. The Black Ryder - The Door Behind The Door

I'm just not a fan of Jack Black. But I didn't hate the movie.

I'm just pleasantly surprised that such a movie doesn't limit itself to the usual seventies hard rock and eighties metal and mentions some actually cool bands.
Still wont watch it though.

In red: ****, forgot those! :banghead:
In green: :beer:

It's a fun movie. Nothing to write home about but it's entertaining enough.

I don't hate Jack Black, he's actually a pretty good actor, but his characters are often really annoying. Might still try watching it some time.

Check out Bernie, it's his best role/film and he doesn't do the over the top stuff he's known for.

And back on topic, Mary Halvorson's 'Meltframe' is sneaking into my top ten. It's already gotten a place among my favourite solo guitar records.

Seen it. One of the reasons I think he has talent.

I love that one X-Files episode with him too. Definitely in my top 10 episodes of the show.

Excellent film

I'll need time to compile them, but I know for sure Chasing Yesterday by Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is up there

My list will be temporary since there's a bunch of stuff I still haven't heard. After I see what I get for christmas the list is VERY likely to change :D

I'm putting 10 albums on the list but I choose to separate them into favourites, and the rest instead of precise ordering:

Favourites of 2015:
Waltari - You Are
Sukekiyo - Vitium
Christian Mistress - To Your Death
Joanna Newsom - Divers
Tori Amos - the Light Princess Original Cast Recording
Olga Bell - Incitation

Other very good albums of 2015:
Helloween - My God Given Right
Gospel of the Witches - Salem's Wounds
Jenny Hval - Apocalypse Girl
Faith No More - Sol Invictus

A good year for music and still getting better, but 2014 won't be topped for a while in my book, probably.

I've actually decided that Emotion is my AOTY. I love Algier's self titled, but the heart never lies.

Carly is bae.