I hate grunge.

Trollheart · 06-11-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

what's funny is how much grunge and this **** has in common

Grunge 'n' Roses?

Nick1976 · 06-11-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Why do people seem to hate Guns N Roses so much?

Made some incredible songs.

And do you know why this happens? Because it's cool to hate Guns N' Roses. It's a phenomenom I have been noticing for a while. I also have a friend who loves GNR, but multiple times I've seen him bash'em when talking to people who are into "more classic rock". It's cool to hate Guns N' Roses, and if you like'em people assume you know nothing about music. Which is really pathetic, really. I mean, seriously, if you like, let's say, Led Zeppelin and Rolling Stones and HATE GNR, there's something wrong, generally speaking. I've seen many people with this same speech. And I'm sorry, if you're into that kind of music it's just stupid to say they haven't done cool stuff. It's just to sound hipster, you know? The whole "Man, GNR is stuff people listen when they're getting into rock"

People are usually very passionate about GNR, and I think this is one of the reasons it's cool to hate'em. I haven't seen one person who likes rock and heavy metal that doesn't enjoy a thing or two from them. Nowadays with all the hipster/indie movement people don't even bother to check it out, for real. It's really annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBqXdg_dOY

The Batlord · 06-11-2018, 07:54 PM

**Exo** · 06-11-2018, 07:58 PM

You know Nick, I think the reason you get a lot of hate on this message board isn't because of your music opinions but rather because you back up your arguments with things like "everyone does this" or "every single person who likes A likes B" or "I've seen a few people do this so everyone does this".

You're like that guy that says something like "You know they say half and half cause cancer." and we're all like "who the f*ck is 'they'?" and you're like "oh, well, my friend Bob told me that".

Stop stating things like "People are usually very passionate about GNR" because you're really talking about your seven friends down at the bar. It's annoying the sh*t out of me.

Trollheart · 06-12-2018, 10:42 AM

What's closer to the truth is that, while many people may be into them (they have their fans of course and were as you say at one time huge, so nobody's denying that, but I think now their time has definitely passed) most people like a few songs, maybe an album or two but in general are NOT passionate about them. Most will say "Oh GNR? Yeah: "Sweet Child", "Paradise City", "Live and Let Die", that band with your man who wears the bandanna and the one with the guitarist with the top hat, Slush or something?"

THAT's what, in general, the perception of GNR is, here in the 21st century. They were a decent band, but they weren't the Second Coming, and they are over now, so really, to keep touting how great they were just shows us all how you refuse to live in the present and are like a hermit, muttering and growling in your cave about "the good old days of metal" and snapping and biting at anyone who comes near.

Neapolitan · 06-13-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

"Welcome to the McDonald's we've got fun and games
We got everything you want honey, we know the names"

Trollheart · 06-13-2018, 12:34 PM

You got a taste that would burn a devil
You know now that I'm on the level
Maybe it would be better just to have a pie?
But I need spice in my life today
And eating pies is so very gay
And if I don't have chilli I'll probably break down and cry.

Oh oh-oh-oh sweet chilli of mine!
Woh-oh-oh-oh sweet chilli of mine!

Where is the john
Where is the john
Where is the john NOW?

Nick1976 · 06-13-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

What's closer to the truth is that, while many people may be into them (they have their fans of course and were as you say at one time huge, so nobody's denying that, but I think now their time has definitely passed) most people like a few songs, maybe an album or two but in general are NOT passionate about them. Most will say "Oh GNR? Yeah: "Sweet Child", "Paradise City", "Live and Let Die", that band with your man who wears the bandanna and the one with the guitarist with the top hat, Slush or something?"

THAT's what, in general, the perception of GNR is, here in the 21st century. They were a decent band, but they weren't the Second Coming, and they are over now, so really, to keep touting how great they were just shows us all how you refuse to live in the present and are like a hermit, muttering and growling in your cave about "the good old days of metal" and snapping and biting at anyone who comes near.

Trollheart so you agree with me that G n R were one of the best rock bands of the 80's and 90s and had a great run. Appetite is one of the best debut rock albums and the Illusions are filled with fantastic tunes. A magic brew of inspiration, blood, sweat, tears, anger, tenderness and swagger. Oh alright, and a teensy bit of narcotics. I think The Spaghetti Incident is really, really underrated. "Appetite for Destruction" is one of the finest albums of the 80s in my opinion. Still sounds fresh today. Whatever you want to say about what followed but Appetite For Destruction still remains one of the most explosive debuts of all time, not many bands sounded this hungry and dangerous as G'N'R did in 1987. But I wish they released a great album in late 1990s as well. As much as I love the sprawling and epic Illusions, they were released the same month as a certain album that changed everything.

Trollheart · 06-13-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick1976

Trollheart so you agree with me that G n R were one of the best rock bands of the 80's and 90s and had a great run. Appetite is one of the best debut rock albums and the Illusions are filled with fantastic tunes. A magic brew of inspiration, blood, sweat, tears, anger, tenderness and swagger. Oh alright, and a teensy bit of narcotics. I think The Spaghetti Incident is really, really underrated. "Appetite for Destruction" is one of the finest albums of the 80s in my opinion. Still sounds fresh today. Whatever you want to say about what followed but Appetite For Destruction still remains one of the most explosive debuts of all time, not many bands sounded this hungry and dangerous as G'N'R did in 1987. But I wish they released a great album in late 1990s as well. As much as I love the sprawling and epic Illusions, they were released the same month as a certain album that changed everything.

Where did I say that? Talk about ****in' hyperbole! All I said was I like them, know some songs and actually I don't have any of their albums. I don't hate them but I sure dont love them and no, I do NOT agree they were one of the best rock bands of the 80s or 90s: there were hundreds better. Literally. They were nothing special. They hit the sweet spot with a few tracks, had a shtick going and were entertaining for a few moments, but other than that, forgettable and certainly not one of the greats by any means.

Jeez! You really only read what you want to read, don't you? You related to Trump, by any chance?

Nick1976 · 06-13-2018, 07:00 PM

Trollheart i would appreciate your opinion on this. KISS or Aerosmith.I love both. Aerosmith is great, I've got all their albums.
When I think of Aerosmith I think of the version that defined hard rock in the 1970s. Aerosmith had the best songs, but Kiss wins hands down as a live act. I give the nod to Aerosmith as far as studio output but not by a large margin. Live albums Kiss wins handily. Live in person Kiss wins handily.

06-11-2018, 07:58 PM	#874 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,359	You know Nick, I think the reason you get a lot of hate on this message board isn't because of your music opinions but rather because you back up your arguments with things like "everyone does this" or "every single person who likes A likes B" or "I've seen a few people do this so everyone does this". You're like that guy that says something like "You know they say half and half cause cancer." and we're all like "who the fck is 'they'?" and you're like "oh, well, my friend Bob told me that". Stop stating things like "People are usually very passionate about GNR" because you're really talking about your seven friends down at the bar. It's annoying the sht out of me. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

06-12-2018, 10:42 AM	#875 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	What's closer to the truth is that, while many people may be into them (they have their fans of course and were as you say at one time huge, so nobody's denying that, but I think now their time has definitely passed) most people like a few songs, maybe an album or two but in general are NOT passionate about them. Most will say "Oh GNR? Yeah: "Sweet Child", "Paradise City", "Live and Let Die", that band with your man who wears the bandanna and the one with the guitarist with the top hat, Slush or something?" THAT's what, in general, the perception of GNR is, here in the 21st century. They were a decent band, but they weren't the Second Coming, and they are over now, so really, to keep touting how great they were just shows us all how you refuse to live in the present and are like a hermit, muttering and growling in your cave about "the good old days of metal" and snapping and biting at anyone who comes near. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-13-2018, 12:34 PM	#877 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	You got a taste that would burn a devil You know now that I'm on the level Maybe it would be better just to have a pie? But I need spice in my life today And eating pies is so very gay And if I don't have chilli I'll probably break down and cry. Oh oh-oh-oh sweet chilli of mine! Woh-oh-oh-oh sweet chilli of mine! Where is the john Where is the john Where is the john NOW? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-13-2018, 07:00 PM	#880 (permalink)
Nick1976 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 151	Trollheart i would appreciate your opinion on this. KISS or Aerosmith.I love both. Aerosmith is great, I've got all their albums. When I think of Aerosmith I think of the version that defined hard rock in the 1970s. Aerosmith had the best songs, but Kiss wins hands down as a live act. I give the nod to Aerosmith as far as studio output but not by a large margin. Live albums Kiss wins handily. Live in person Kiss wins handily.