Never said that, though it's definitely something people can improve on.

When I took my first ever IAT in college, it reported that I had an implicit bias towards light-colored skin over dark-colored skin. I wasn't shocked and it didn't make me feel upset or embarrassed, but I took note of it and tried to think about it more often. College and adult life has since immersed me more in other cultures outside of my cozy little white suburban bubble, and now I feel like I'm better about those things. I took an IAT an hour ago and it reported that I show zero bias now, so clearly I've improved the way my mind implicitly thinks about people. Others can do that too.

Or you just have better motor skills now.

You can't outsmart Harvard, sorry. Motor skills have nothing to do with the test, it compares your reaction times between two categories.

An answer to a question similar to yours from the IAT FAQ:

Got a source that isn't from the brochure?

You don't think that you can improve on your ability to do the test?

Always good to trust an Ivy League source :laughing:

Yeah, it said I had a moderate automatic preference for European Americans. That makes sense since I'm white. It didn't suggest I hated blacks. Like I said, we all have a bias. What we all have to do is work on the biases. It doesn't mean we're bad people.

And it still has nothing to do with being meh about hip hop.

Great. Nobody cares. Let's move on.

Agreed.

It’s not meant to be something you practice and get better at, I think that defeats the whole purpose of the test. No one’s measuring their abilities, you take it to find out something about yourself you may not have already known

You could “improve” at just about any test in the field of Psychology unless you’re using EEG to measure brain activity or something. Kind of invalidates the entire field of social psychology to think of things that way, though it’s hard to deny that social psychology is perhaps the least provable/scientific of any of the major sciences

I like hip hop.

I voted 3 on the poll. When it's good it's good and when it's bad it's appalling, but even a lot of the albums I do like suffer from the things I mentioned so I think 3 is about fair.

The existence of something like this actually underscores my point. To pick an easily recognizable face out of the crowd of small faces there, why would I care how many unique words MF Doom uses? His apparently large vocabulary enables him to write lyrics that are definitely better than average, but that’s not why I’m listening. I’m listening because he makes great music. He could rap random syllables over some of his amazingly produced tracks and I’d still want to listen. Give some of his lyrics to ICP and have them rap over their music and I’d have no interest.

Batlord triggered in 3...2...1...

Don't nobody but cretins listen to ICP for intelligent, accomplished lyrics.

You know there’s plenty of Juggalos out there who have tats of the deepest ICP lyrics.

Nothing like getting "I'm Always Quick To Tell You When My Nuts Itch" tattoo'd in script on your arm. That's some deep ****.

Or “Fucking magnets, how do they work?”

I know what I'm getting as my next tattoo now.

You apparently didn't realise the opening shot was a lighthearted jab at the kind of lyrics you find in hip-hop, but don't tell me that what I said isn't true. It certainly may not be true of ALL hip-hop, and I've not listened to enough to be able to make an informed judgement, but it's clearly the perception outside of the genre, just as "noodling", long solos, multi-part suites and songs about dragons and elves is the general mainstream perception of prog. That impression is not wrong, but there's so much more to prog than that. Similarly, there is, I'm sure, much more to hip-hop than what I wrote, but this is the image it projects. Not my fault it we pick up what they're putting out.
Hey! I'm not racist. I saw a black guy on the street once. Well, actually it was just someone with a really good tan...
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You expected something else?
I agree fully. I'll probably vote 2 or 3.

I certainly hate hip-hop a lot less now than I did a few years ago. Having listened to it, there's definitely some major league excellent music there, and I have the utmost respect for people who can rap. It's such an art, it leaves me breathless. But let's not pretend the bad stuff is confined to a few minor artists or a small percentage. Maybe it's only commercial, but the stuff I reviewed over the last year or two had a very large slice of that "kill yo bitches don't touch my hos" all through it. It didn't by any means ruin the music for me, but I probably would have enjoyed it just as much without it.

Oh, and Batty? Sorry to break the news to ya buddy, but you ain't black. I know you want to be, but you ain't, son.

I forgot to vote. 4 suck

You think the genre really sucks? I thought this was one of your favourite ones?

Everything sucks.

You have much to teach us.

sigh

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

Hey, Yorke. Are you maybe showing a little bias yourself? You're being pretty judgmental and you don't even know us.

Powerviolence.

lol that'll show em

This is such a typical parental outlook on hip hop.

That is not the image hip-hop projects, that is the image that you want it to project

I am heavily biased against snooty white people more than any other group, yes

Probably not :laughing:


Yes, parents just don't understand. Sound likes a DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince song, great stalwarts of hip hop that they were :laughing:

Actually maybe our attitudes aren't unlike the PMRC hearing in the eighties. Back then they were going after the likes of Twisted Sister, Judas Priest, and even Madonna. So you whippersnappers aren't telling us anything we haven't experienced. Indeed the generation that was trying to ban eighties rock n roll had to endure their parents attempts to ban rock n roll in its infancy. In other words, it never ends.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox. Nobody cares, carry on :D

It will definitely end

Each subsequent generation is more and more tolerant than the last. Eventually these kinds of things will die off with the old people.

Well yeah. I also posted that because its the wrong outlook to have. It automatically tells me that TH doesn't actively listen to hip hop.

I realize this is the pot calling the kettle black.

*cough*

Legitimately just came in here to edit my post to reflect that.

There is a lot of truth to this I don't see the issue. Maybe not as much of a problem in the past ten years since it started moving away from that but it is definitely there.

the bad: southern hip hop doesn't get nearly enough love

Hip hop is basically the black version of country music.

They’re similar in the sense that they’re both music.

That's debatable.






That was a joke.

Nah the language you used is pretty specific to clueless, white, old people who are at least partly racist. Those specific words, the way they're put together, and the overall tone are exactly this white people stereotype. Much like all of the ethnic jokes you make. You're not so much actively racist as just cringe-inducingly problematic but you absolutely refuse to see it and that makes it worse.