and when i said "everything they do" i meant they were reffering to their music. but whatever...lets drop this, its getting pointless.

Melt Banana aren't really screamo, more noise/punk/etc..or something but not screamo.

^That's been pointed out already.

I didn't see that you stupid gibbardist.

uhmm... a question... please don't tell me anything if i'm wrong... ^_^

Is FromFirstToLast an screamo band...?

Remember: IT'S ONLY A QUESTION

n_n

i would say... no, more melodic hardcore.

no, post-hardcore, i'd say. or pop.

Why would you say pop? that's rather absurd.

Post hardcore influences is the correct answer.

i was taking a jab at the hordes of fans fftl has, not to mention the undeserved praise.

i'm not that thick. :laughing:

screamo sounds like melodic hardcore to me..

Except melodic hardcore is stuff like Rise Against and Strike Anywhere, who sound nothing like a screamo band in any sense.

yeah dude your right

interesting.....


I think you've left out the hardcore bands that were the first "emo" bands..such as Piebald in it's early days, and Shift, these are both east coast bands form the mid to late 90's...they were essentially hardcore bands, hardcore meaning hardcore punk, though the feel of hardcore at that time was very specific and not what one generally refers to as "punk"...

harcore bands like Gorrilla Biscuits I think influenced early emo too- they were not emo per se but they expressed in their lyrics their emotions and what was bothering them about the scene...and some songs were just funny.

ok, that's my 2 cents, just rambling on there....

I fail to see how a hardcore band like GB could influence early emo bands when they released their first major 7" four years after emo's conception.

i think what he meant by early emo is emo before the 90s, i dunno, i think that's what he said

Piebald didn't release their first album until 94 or 95.

Sonnet>nutshell

ok. i'm not saying that they ARE an emo band, certainly not...and I don't know when you think emo's "conception" was, I was just thinking that they were one of the more "melodic" hardcore bands, if you will, with lots of catchy tunes and sing along parts and perhaps they had some influence on the emerging emo bands...that's all. I could be wrong... And you can't tell me that Piebald didn't influence any bands after them! I'm sure there were earlier bands, so maybe I shouldn't have sad that they were one of the first , though....

I don't know what you think "emo" is, because you wouldn't be saying catchy tunes and sing-along parts are encompassing of the genre. And yes, emo did exist before The Get Up Kids.

um, I know what emo is.....I'm not saying that those characteristics are encompassing of the genre- not at all.

The Get Up Kids???, you think that's what i think early emo sounds like?, um no, wrong again.

I think what this comes down to is that you are talking about the 80's hardcore - emo scene and I am talking about the 90's emo- screamo scene....so in my original post I should have said the first "screamo" bands (though Shift is a 90's emo band, I really wouldn't put them in the screamo category) since I would say that songs like Piebald's 8 am departure probably had a big influenence on the emerging screamo/emo/whatever you want to call them bands like the Get Up kids...

I think if we were able to sit down IRL and have this conversation, we would agree.

that was an excellent post. i grew up with a dude from instil/you and i. it amazes me that he gets credited as almost starting a sub-genre like that. Deservedly so. so many of those bands played so many great shows in jersey, the list goes on and on...good times.

Hour of the Star was from New Jersey!

about the comment at the top, like most of the bands from the emo age these days are influenced by bands like at the drive in

emo actually stands for emotional hard core

yo nutshell is ur name coming from the nutshell from alice in chains

S'not like I've really explored this topic much outside the initial post, but regardless of wether I'm the first to say this or not: Melt Banana are absolutely NOT emo in any way, shape, or form. They could be considered Noise Punk, Noise Grind, Artcore, or whatever quasi-pretentious title you wanna give them, but they are way more than a stonesthrow away from any variation of emotional punk-fueled music, and DEFINATELY not "screamo".
If anything, they're more like a focused Sore Throat or The Boredoms over any remotely introspective piece of music worthy of mention on this board.

Oh, and so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm a flippin' huge Melt Banana buff. Just sayin'.

And it doesn't hurt to mention that they're a more focused Boredoms (or Voordoms, whatever) because The Boredoms is ace.

bucket full of teeth are grind, and joshua fit for battle are powerviolence

was that sarcasm?

JFFB is nothing close to powerviolence. I'm hoping this post is a joke/sarcasm poked at the fact many consider BFOT grind.

lol for some reason when I read JFFB I thought Charles Bronson





some bands are connected in my mind for reasons unknown to myself

can anyone tell me what band Horror City came from?


they sound like Sailboats kinda.

members of Horror City were in Sailboats.

charles bronson kicked ass.

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Eh, This is weird.
 

Okay, I may be young, but hear me out. Please.

Screamo is a musical genre that developed out of emo, more specifically hardcore emo, in the early 1990s. Characteristic of the genre are the screaming vocals (not growling). Other than that, it is fairly hard to classify (particularly since the rule about screaming vocals is bent fairly often). It is sometimes also mistakenly referred to as "emo violence", which is closely related (although bands in both genres borrow ideas from each other). The term has been co-opted by some mainstream publications to describe bands such as Underoath, Hawthorne Heights, Thrice, Thursday, and Taking Back Sunday. Screamo bands play a thrashy brand of emo often featuring harmonizing guitar riffing and anguished vocal screams. It is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore, however what basis this has in fact is questionable. Many screamo bands play a slower melodic breakdown in songs. Lyrically, screamo topics are often times introspective, although it is not uncommon to see a screamo band with political lyrics. Most screamo songs use imagery and metaphors to speak of lost love or failed friendships.


In California in the early 1990s, Gravity Records from San Diego released many defining records of this style. Significant Emo bands from this time include Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. In the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. The labels Gern Blandsten Records and Troubleman Records released many of the influential records from that region and era. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Contemporary screamo bands include Circle Takes the Square and Saetia. There was an explosion of bands, some who influenced this were: Indian Summer, Evergreen, Current, Shotmaker, Portraits of Past, and Julia. These bands eventually became what is known as Emo, a style which intensified the dramatic aspects of vocal performances in order to achieve a cathartic breakthrough with the audience. Their music backgrounds differ, Julia and Evergreen both soft and deep produced some of the richest Emo sounds, while Shotmaker railed off hardcore punk and found their niches in the brutal honesty of the human voice. Done well, the result was powerful emotional release that often left Emo bands and their audiences crying or screaming or very quiet at the end of performances. While effective, such open displays of emotion made many traditional hardcore fans uncomfortable, and caused much friction between the two camps. In recent years, the internet has helped spread word of screamo through websites and through online distributions. Many fans of the genre have turned to eBay to expand their collections of rare and out-of-print records. This leads to very high prices on records that often cost a meager $10 or less when they were first released. Some members of bands who have broken up have expressed displeasure in these high prices and urge fans not to buy them, or buy a posthumously released discography instead. In recent years, the term "screamo" has been misused very commonly to describe emo, post-punk, alternative rock, metalcore, or hardcore bands with emo influences.

Yay, Wiki again.

young at what? copy and pasting?


screamo is the least reliable music genre source on Wikipedia, considering every week some nerd tries to show off their "coolness" by listing as many obscure/unknown bands as possible and giving a ****ty examples and definitions of screamo.

Besides that, I'd say wiki is a good source for genre info.

"it is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore,"


what the fuck?

lolololololol

i could never say screamo has "brutality" or is "brutal"


PS: is it is just me or do you find saying "contemprary screamo bands include Saetia and Circle Takes The Square"
considering CTTS sounds like nobody else, and Saetia has been dead for years, and there's been a way different wave of screamo bands the past 5-6 years?

r u jokin skremo is fukken brutal