jibber

frist of all i think you should be more open to genres of music that you personally dont like. just becasue you don't connect with the music doesn't make it crap. secondly, lyrics are a HUGE part of the identity of the song. the lyrics are what the listener is able to connect to. lyrics about things that actually matter, that actually make people feel, is what separates a good song from a great song. case in point, take something like good charlotte vs. brand new. both artists are decent musically (i'm just using gc as an example, and personally i think brand nre kicks their ass lyrically and musically) but gc's lyrics are crap. simple rhyming lines about rich people whining. who the **** can relate to that? it means nothing. now compare that to brand new. on one album they convey pain, depression, sacrifice, regret, these topics trigger our own thoughts on the matter, and bring out our own experiences. in my opinion, if you say that lyrics don't matter, then you really dont appreciate musicians. bands are so much more than a group of people playing instruments in harmony. they're poets, they speak to the public about thigns that they are passionate about. bands that last, that have a real impact, are bands that really believe in what they are singing about, and really feel it as they are singing it. and for the most part, emo artists do just that.

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brokenheartsandfallenhero

Thank you jibber it is good to know there are others out there who know what they are talking about Keep on spreading the musical gospel

banonbush

Ok, lets clear this up. I didn't say lyrics dont' matter in general, I said they don't deem what genre music goes into. That, obviously, is the music's job. Of course lyrics are what the audience connects with, it is definitly what makes them feel. I agree totally with that. If I didn't, then I really would be an ignorant **** who knows nothing. I simply say that lyrics don't put music into genres. Maybe sub-genres, but that's another story.
To Jibber: I appreciate your reply, as it was one that was well stated and thought out. Nice work.

To Broken heart guy: It's pretty pathetic that you had to take spelling into account with my posts. That just says you have nothing left to say and have to make yourself sound smart by being some kind of want-to-be english scholar. We aren't in school, and no one cares if you misspell words. Honestly, I think we are pretty close to being on the same page, but are missing the connection. I like emo, I'm just arguing that it's not the lyrical content that makes it that, but rather the style of music, as in the style the instruments are playing.
P.S. Current emo albums I own (most recently listened to) Sunny Day RealEstate, Piebald, Saves the Day (the old stuff) Dashboard Confessional (the old stuff) Brand New(close enough), and Bright Eyes(I don't care if you don't like him).

brokenheartsandfallenhero

Alright banonbush I can see your point but I still disagree with it I mean of the bands that I enjoy and consider emo there are extreme musical diffrences but it is the similarities in the music that tie them together for example Dashboard is very calm usually acoustic just relaxing on the ears The early november (although having a large amount of acoustic stuff) can be really fast and sometimes loud but the lyrics are very similar. And as for the spelling issue I am not a wannabe english teacher I am just a normal emo kid who writes a lot off poetry and stuff so crappy spelling/grammer stick out to me Sorry. So can we call a truce

Brokenbutsmiling

Hey there, I'm new here, but I thought I'd reply to this post. I listen to a lot of emo, but I'm pretty open to a lot of other music types, even grindcore deathmetal heehee. But anyway

My favorite for sure emo song is I woke up in a Car by Something Corporate.

I would, however, like to argue that Iris, by the Goo Goo Dolls, is emo, and it's my favorite song of all time.

banonbush

Ok, I"m glad that buisness is over with. As for the spelling mistakes, I'm the Editor in chief of the newpaper at my school, and I get jammed down the throat with spelling mistakes everyday. I'm usually about done with correctly gramar/spelling by the end of the day, so thanks for excusing it. Also to thisnew guy, broken but smiling. I don't know either of those songs, but whatever. Like what you like.

Thrice

I know em both... i think they both rawk!

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Brokenbutsmiling

You don't know Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls???? Man, you are missing out. And Something Corporate is one of the most talented group of musicians/songwriters I've heard in a while

jibber

i love iris. only thing is it gets me soooo depressed

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What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road.
William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways

Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass.

HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

Thrice

Its deep.

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Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."