what exactly is this album derivative of?

I mean, you hear about Interpol being derivative of Joy Division, Bloc Party derivative of Gang of Four - how is Loveless derivative? You say it sounds like a fusion of The Jesus and Mary Chain and the Cocteau Twins' music, which is debatable to begin with as there's plenty of other influences at work. But even so, that's a combination of two ideas into a new one - in other words, not derivative, just musical evolution and progression.

Loveless sounds nothing like the Jesus & Mary Chain.

If you're going to say they ripped off the Mary Chain because of the guitar feedback thing you may as well say the ripped off Hendrix.

MBV attempt to be more trance-like by repeating the same riffs over and over, but if you can't hear J&MC's massive influence overshadowing "Loveless", then all I can say is ignorance is bliss and enjoy their music. As I said it's not a bad record. IMO it’s more of a derivation of "Psycho Candy's" pop melodies and dirty distorted guitars, than an "evolution".

You make a good point and let me try to answer it this way. When I hear an original song by a great band, I'm unable to distinguish the musical influences. For example Radiohead and "Paranoid Android". I've listened to that song dozens of times, and I can't honestly say it sounds like anybody else but Radiohead. Yeah it's got prog rock, alt rock, new wave, and other sub-genres in it, but it's uniquely Radiohead and sounds like no other band. When I listen to MBV, i begin to lose interest half way through a song and start thinking, that sounds like J&MC, or they remind me of Cocteau Twins, or as some other posters noted, Bauhaus or Sonic Youth. Great bands absorb influences into something new, whereas bands that fall short, wear them on their sleeve.

Magnificent! I'd give anything to see them live...

Wierdly enough, Matt (not burns but the 7ft tall one) in his and mine weekly music conversation mentioned that they might be going to some festival somewhere in California, I don't remember the name of it or when it is, but if you are up to I suppose you drive there or something.

Coachella? That rumor's being going around for a while. I'd much much much rather see them in a club than at a festival.

yea, that sounds right. I agree they would be better in a club, but I don't really think you have much of a choice.

Well the whole Coachella thing is unconfirmed, if they do have a reunion tour I'd imagine they would tour all over rather than just play one festival.

Which ones specifically?

Loveless is one of the most beautiful and moving albums I've ever heard. PERIOD. Just don't listen to it on a road trip, I made that mistake a couple of years ago.

funny that this topic is 2 yrs old now.

I just recently started listening to them but I really like them.

It is funny that people would talk about bands that formed more than two decades ago before you started listening to them.

I listen to far more old stuff than new stuff, so...

Kudos?

Soft As Snow.....







....But Warm Inside

the other forum i post on is completely *** for loveless..

Pitchfork: My Bloody Valentine Announce Reunion Shows!

I'm going to the London one! I'm so excited.

As for new material, I'm a little skeptical..I'm sure it would be at least somewhat good but I honestly can't see them getting near the quality of Loveless. There's something about Loveless that just makes me think it'll always be the absolute pinnacle of the noisy.shoegazer.tremelo sound. The production is remarkable.

I already heard about this so I didn't bother reading the article, but from what I understand a lot of the "new material" was recorded right after Loveless... which definitely raises my hopes.

They will probably headline Coachella with Portishead next year. THAT would be an amazing co-headlining gig.

from a recent interview with Kevin Shields (conducted by the wonderful Ian Svenonius of Nation of Ulysses fame)...the new one will be 3/4 material recorded after Loveless, and 1/4 new stuff. So you have a point, although if it was THAT good then surely Shields wouldn't have called it quits? Or maybe there was another reason.

whatever I expect this to be a LOUD show.

London - The Roundhouse – June 20
Manchester - Apollo – June 28
Glasgow - Barrowlands – July 2


the are playing some gigs besides coachella
anyone goin???

i got tix for the london show...
im goin to europe for the first time tooo whoopeee

06-20 London, England - The Roundhouse
06-21 London, England - The Roundhouse
06-22 London, England - The Roundhouse
06-28 Manchester, England - Apollo
06-29 Manchester, England - Apollo
07-02 Glasgow, Scotland - Barrowland
07-03 Glasgow, Scotland - Barrowland

they added dates

I might be in England one of those days, either that or somewhere lost in the US with my bf.

I got tickets YES!

so did i i gotz four...

im flyn out there for it from new jersey
well not just it, but i was planning a trip to england anyway, seemed like a good time and reason to go

I'm going to see them in Manchester on the 29th. Should be good.

We'll be able to download it in holographic form by the time that gets finished.

"Of course, if they're hitting the studio next month, that means the disc can probably be expected in 2008, and not before the end of the year, as Kevin Shields has claimed. Hey, better that than an endless parade of "eventually", amirite?"

Unless they decide to become the indie guns and roses.

Anyone seeing them play in July?
I will be petrified in orgasmic distortion for the Manchester dates, having flashbacks to 5am MBV sessions by moonlight. mmm.

And if one more child tells me that their name sounds a bit 'emo' I will end them

Anyone else think their name sound a bit emo?

Tish And Fipsy *sips tea*

I don't get it =[

I'm fobbing it off like a gentleman. Fobbing is a word right?

I'M SO LOST
GODDAMN THE BRITISH AND THEIR SLANG

:laughing: I predict a backlash against Americanization. But then again I predicted that hovercars would be commercially available by 2005. Cor blimey guv'nor!

You had me until blimey guv'nor =[