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sexy_drug 07-29-2005 04:38 AM

Pavement Or Interpol
 
Yo, Just wondering which one you guys and girls think is better pavement or interpol, i prefer pavement (and thats gotten me into a bit of trouble believe it or not) but anywho knock yourselfs out

Josephine 07-29-2005 05:02 AM

Interpol

adidasss 07-29-2005 05:31 AM

i haven't heard pavement but i find it hard to believe they would top interpol...the editors shure don't....

DidierD 07-29-2005 08:40 AM

i wouldnt really put them in the same league at the moment really. they play similair music but interpol are so much bigger its not really an even contest (if you get what i mean)

hookers with machineguns 07-29-2005 10:04 AM

Do any of you actually know Pavement?

Well anyway, Pavement>>>>>>Interpol

SATCHMO 07-29-2005 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
Do any of you actually know Pavement?

Well anyway, Pavement>>>>>>Interpol

My sentiments exactly

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-29-2005 12:41 PM

This isn`t a serious question is it?

DidierD 07-29-2005 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
Do any of you actually know Pavement?

to be fair i have only heared 1 song (Greenlander) and they were around in the 90's but im sticking with my point

SATCHMO 07-29-2005 01:51 PM

Interpol in a few years will be known as "Interwho?". Pavement has influenced countless indie and post-rock bands and will be legends for a long time. The comparison is pointless.

From Cosmic Left Feild... 07-29-2005 02:27 PM

well...eh...yeah the comparison is pointless. I mean, Interpol will never reach the indie rock valhallah that Pavement has but in all honesty, I never thought Pavement was so great, though I do enjoy the Silver Jews.

_The_Repeats_ 07-29-2005 03:39 PM

Pavement are crap compared to Interpol. I may be slightly bias as I'm a huuuge Interpol fan, but I've listened to Pavement and they don't really do it for me. Whatever "it" is... But meh, I guess you like what you like. *Waves her "GO INTERPOL!" flag*

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-29-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SATCHMO
Interpol in a few years will be known as "Interwho?".

I was saying that even before their second album was released

sexy_drug 07-30-2005 01:58 AM

Haha i have to say the first time i heard interpol i thought it was going to be some crap emo band

puddin 07-30-2005 02:06 AM

When I first heard Interpol I didn't think they were anything special... and I still don't. Pavement on the other hand are one of my favourite bands ever, their only competition in terms of being the best comes from the Pixies and the Violent Femmes first album. To anyone who thinks Interpol is better than them, just listen to Stop Breathin', Gold Soundz, Stereo, Trigger Cut or any of their songs really. They're all excellent, with the possible exception of Hit The Plane Down.

sexy_drug 07-30-2005 02:36 AM

Dont forget shady lane, embassy row, folk jam, cream for gold, spit on a stranger and no life singed her

puddin 07-30-2005 02:41 AM

Yeah, they're all great tracks. Hey, Barwise, do you have Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain? I reckon it has most of their best songs on it.

Now that I think about it actually it's very hard to compare Pavement to Interpol in terms of songwriting and technical talent. The two bands play very different styles of music.

DrinkInTillYouLoveMe 07-30-2005 04:17 AM

I like Interpol better than Pavement, but both are good.

Imonlydancing 07-30-2005 12:22 PM

I like Interpol.

gotbacktheplague 07-31-2005 02:22 AM

We're forgetting the fact that Pavement kinda' sucked. Their music wasn't really anything special, except for the fact that it launched billions of ****ty sound-alikes (except for "Cut Your Hair"... that's a great song). I doubt they'd even be as well-known as they are if they hadn't feuded with the Smashing Pumpkins (I'd side with Pavement). They really were just a '90's band. They were "alternative" back when it meant something, though, so due props should be given.

On the other hand, Interpol would be considered a ****ty sound-alike (Afghan Whigs and Joy Division, the critworld would say), but they're on Matador, for chrissakes. While they may remind people of said post-punk, they really don't sound anything like any of the bands they're compared to. Coldplay and Travis both "suck" because they're considered Radiohead rip-offs, but all I can think of to relate those bands is the fact they're British. Sure, Chris Martin sings like Thom Yorke, but Paul Banks (Interpol) sounds absolutely nothing like Ian Curtis, and for that reason they can't be written-off as a sound-alike.

That being said, I hope I convinced everyone who disagrees with me that they are wrong.






My opinion is way more important.

sexy_drug 07-31-2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotbacktheplague
We're forgetting the fact that Pavement kinda' sucked. Their music wasn't really anything special, except for the fact that it launched billions of ****ty sound-alikes (except for "Cut Your Hair"... that's a great song). I doubt they'd even be as well-known as they are if they hadn't feuded with the Smashing Pumpkins (I'd side with Pavement). They really were just a '90's band. They were "alternative" back when it meant something, though, so due props should be given.

On the other hand, Interpol would be considered a ****ty sound-alike (Afghan Whigs and Joy Division, the critworld would say), but they're on Matador, for chrissakes. While they may remind people of said post-punk, they really don't sound anything like any of the bands they're compared to. Coldplay and Travis both "suck" because they're considered Radiohead rip-offs, but all I can think of to relate those bands is the fact they're British. Sure, Chris Martin sings like Thom Yorke, but Paul Banks (Interpol) sounds absolutely nothing like Ian Curtis, and for that reason they can't be written-off as a sound-alike.

That being said, I hope I convinced everyone who disagrees with me that they are wrong.






My opinion is way more important.


Ahhh gee what an arse "My opinion is way more important" ummm before you go around saying more bands are crap, do you even listen to GOOD music?

oh and midgley, yeah i got it but ive spent half my time listening to velvet underground and slanted and enchanted so i aint really got around to listening to it properly

gotbacktheplague 07-31-2005 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sexy_drug
Ahhh gee what an arse "My opinion is way more important" ummm before you go around saying more bands are crap, do you even listen to GOOD music?

Gee, they call it irony here in the states. See, I don't like it when people act like their opinion is better than others, so by acting that way (the opposite of how you'd expect me to act... see: irony) I can get people like you to take me seriously, and then I have a lot of fun writing a post like this.

:tramp:

puddin 07-31-2005 06:10 AM

Hahaha, stupid Barwise.
Anyway, if you don't like Pavement I think you're missing out but that's ok cause i don't like a ****load of bands.
I think Pavement and Interpol are both at the top of their sounds and props to them for achieving that.

gotbacktheplague 07-31-2005 06:47 AM

Actually, I just told myself I didn't like Pavement because my friend bought Crooked Rain before I got the chance to, and he never liked any cd I bought, so I needed ammo. Whatta' prick.

sexy_drug 08-01-2005 06:04 AM

Well sorry for think irony works better and is easier to get when its shorter and in person, writing ironicly is a bitch (well thats just me, and i nearly failed english)

mancmusic 08-01-2005 09:47 AM

interpol. 'pda' is a well good song

gotbacktheplague 08-02-2005 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sexy_drug
Well sorry for think irony works better and is easier to get when its shorter and in person, writing ironicly is a bitch (well thats just me, and i nearly failed english)

But how will doing anything easily make me feel smart and superior?

sexy_drug 08-02-2005 01:59 AM

dunno just cover purple rain or some crap, preforming a prince song and having bottles thrown at you might help

sexy_drug 08-02-2005 02:26 AM

sorry to all the prince fans out there but he was the first person who came to mind

The Indie Bar Kid 08-02-2005 08:42 AM

Muchos respectos to Pavement on their influence and what they kick-started and so on, but their music has grown quite stale to me after a while, and thus, as quite the Interpol fanatic, Ill have to go with my NYC Indie Goth babies. They do make much more memorable "pop" moments than Pavement, if you want to put it like that. I dont remember Pavement writing anything half as fantastic as "Evil", "Say Hello To The Angels" or "Obstacle 1".

adidasss 08-02-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I was saying that even before their second album was released

oh god........because you get to determine what's good and what's not...please, everyone knows you listen to crapy music and you haven't said one complimentary word about a single new band that has been discussed here,which is getty a bit old.....

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
oh god........because you get to determine what's good and what's not...please, everyone knows you listen to crapy music and you haven't said one complimentary word about a single new band that has been discussed here,which is getty a bit old.....

Or maybe it`s because I was hearing how great their debut was & when I actually heard it realised it was one of the most boring albums i`d ever listened to & they didn`t have an original idea in their collective heads.

And i`ve said lots of good things about bands , even on this thread if you bother to look.

adidasss 08-02-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Or maybe it`s because I was hearing how great their debut was & when I actually heard it realised it was one of the most boring albums i`d ever listened to & they didn`t have an original idea in their collective heads.

And i`ve said lots of good things about bands , even on this thread if you bother to look.

you must be joking...i repeat, i have never heard you say anything good about a single new indie or other band for that matter.....all you can say is "booooorrrriinnngg", because the bands YOU listen to are so fucking interesting.....and you think that just because you listen to 80's bands ( that incedently suck my left nut ) and hate on everything new people will think you're a higher authority on music.......please.......

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 10:32 AM

Oh **** off

Not this arguement AGAIN.

I`m here to express an opinion and I do , deal with it.

I would like to think that there are some good indie guitar bands around but as a whole most the them sound boring & generic & I very much doubt that most of them have the lasting appeal to even get as far as a third album, I apologise if this doesn`t fit into your NME loving world where the next indie guitar band that comes along is the greatest thing ever , it`s got absolutly **** all to do with me being all high & mighty & thinking that my opinion is the greatest in the world , it`s got more to do with me hearing these 'greatest bands ever' and being bored ridged by them.

If you can`t handle the fact that not everybody is happy indieville at the moment then thats not my problem , if you`re perfectly happy buying album after album of generic indie rock then thats fine too , just don`t EVER expect me try & be nice about something that I think is ****ing awful.

hookers with machineguns 08-02-2005 10:51 AM

Actually, Urban has talked about a handful of new indie bands, and with praise too.

To me, Interpol falls into a category of boring new breed indie bands that deserve less than 1/10 of the attention they are receiving worldwide. Just because some music journalist has high regards for them, doesn't make them a good band.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 11:19 AM

New Bands i`ve started threads on in the past few months (bearing in mind I was away for about 2 months)

Acoustic Ladyland , The Engineers , The Go Team , The Tears , Dalek , Tom Vek , LCD Soundsystem , Comets On Fire , Mr Scruff

And thats without mentioning the ones about Nick Drake , Alice Cooper , Aerosmith , Stereolab , Public Image LTD , Super Furry Animals , Big Star & many many more.

adidasss 08-02-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Oh **** off

Not this arguement AGAIN.

I`m here to express an opinion and I do , deal with it.

I would like to think that there are some good indie guitar bands around but as a whole most the them sound boring & generic & I very much doubt that most of them have the lasting appeal to even get as far as a third album, I apologise if this doesn`t fit into your NME loving world where the next indie guitar band that comes along is the greatest thing ever , it`s got absolutly **** all to do with me being all high & mighty & thinking that my opinion is the greatest in the world , it`s got more to do with me hearing these 'greatest bands ever' and being bored ridged by them.

If you can`t handle the fact that not everybody is happy indieville at the moment then thats not my problem , if you`re perfectly happy buying album after album of generic indie rock then thats fine too , just don`t EVER expect me try & be nice about something that I think is ****ing awful.

bla bla bla....
i just think it's very annoying that you walk into every indie thread and shit on the band in question...after 3 months of the same comments about every goddamn band it gets a bit weary.....

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 12:20 PM

It gets a bit weary listening to them too.

Don`t worry if I hear something good you`ll be the first to know

adidasss 08-02-2005 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
Actually, Urban has talked about a handful of new indie bands, and with praise too. .

that must have been before i joined this forum
Quote:

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

To me, Interpol falls into a category of boring new breed indie bands that deserve less than 1/10 of the attention they are receiving worldwide. Just because some music journalist has high regards for them, doesn't make them a good band.

oh god....you seem to be under the impression that people are stupid goats that don't have a mind of their own and folow the suggestions and instructions on what is good music from some journalist,i've said this a katrilion times, no matter how much some band is praised by rock critics if the audience doesn't pick up on their briliance they will not become popular...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
New Bands i`ve started threads on in the past few months (bearing in mind I was away for about 2 months)

Acoustic Ladyland , The Engineers , The Go Team , The Tears , Dalek , Tom Vek , LCD Soundsystem , Comets On Fire , Mr Scruff

And thats without mentioning the ones about Nick Drake , Alice Cooper , Aerosmith , Stereolab , Public Image LTD , Super Furry Animals , Big Star & many many more.

note to self - remember to buy cds from nick drake, alice cooper and aerosmith........(bahahaha)

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss

oh god....you seem to be under the impression that people are stupid goats that don't have a mind of their own and folow the suggestions and instructions on what is good music from some journalist,i've said this a katrilion times, no matter how much some band is praised by rock critics if the audience doesn't pick up on their briliance they will not become popular...

Me & Hookers ARE the audience , we`re not impressed with them

I find it odd that one minute you`re complaining about us being negetive about a band you happen to like & the next you`re bitching at Hookers, saying that people can form their own opinions without needing journalists.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-02-2005 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss

note to self - remember to buy cds from nick drake, alice cooper and aerosmith........(bahahaha)

Oh yeah thats right I forgot , you`re allergic to any music earlier than 2002


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