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Old 03-31-2020, 02:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi, The Booman ! I like your user name; it sounds as if you are full of surprises, but friendly too. I hope that's the case.
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It's good to have someone new with an interest in blues/prog etc. I see Frownland, OH and Neapolitan have introduced themselves, and you will soon meet our other resident experts, Psy-Fi, rostasi, etc. And me? I'm the guy who posts, "ooh thanks" when they show me something new.

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The Who, Humble Pie (Jerry Shirley is an underrated drummer). Small Faces, Procal Harum, Atomic Rooster, Uriah Heep, early Soft Machine, Early UFO (with Mick Bolton). Many more.
Most of those bands I really don't know much about except for their names. I haven't gone through any of their albums but with the exception of Procol Harum & their first two albums. I don't bother with The Who -- thanks to Jerry Bruckheimer.

My taste varies. If I had to pare down the list it would be: Les Paul & Mary Ford, The Rolling Stones, Steve Howe (the various bands he was in.) Traffic, Genesis, & Pram. I also like a bunch of one albums bands like Room and two albums bands like Trees.

In case you don't know who Pram are they're a superior version of The Residents. J/K!!! This forum the older bands trump newer ones, so that would be considered heresey here.

My favorite drummers are Mel Taylor, Jim Capaldi, Bill Burford, Charlie Watts, Carl Palmer and Bonzo. My favorite Jazz drummers are Elvin Jones & Joe Morello. There are three real Jazz aficionados on MB. Frownland is musicbanter's Grand Poobah of Jazz and he's probably right now scoffing at my Jazz knowledge or lack thereof. Mainly cause I failed to mention a European Free Jazz drummer.

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I don't recognize the name "Room" but "Pre Flight" sounds very familiar. I just checked it out on Youtube. Thanks for turning me on to something new.
You're welcome.
The Byrds have a comp. called "Preflyte." maybe that's what you're thinking of?
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Most of those bands I really don't know much about except for their names. I haven't gone through any of their albums but with the exception of Procol Harum & their first two albums. I don't bother with The Who -- thanks to Jerry Bruckheimer.

My taste varies. If I had to pare down the list it would be: Les Paul & Mary Ford, The Rolling Stones, Steve Howe (the various bands he was in.) Traffic, Genesis, & Pram. I also like a bunch of one albums bands like Room and two albums bands like Trees.

In case you don't know who Pram are they're a superior version of The Residents. J/K!!! This forum the older bands trump newer ones, so that would be considered heresey here.

My favorite drummers are Mel Taylor, Jim Capaldi, Bill Burford, Charlie Watts, Carl Palmer and Bonzo. My favorite Jazz drummers are Elvin Jones & Joe Morello. There are three real Jazz aficionados on MB. Frownland is musicbanter's Grand Poobah of Jazz and he's probably right now scoffing at my Jazz knowledge or lack thereof. Mainly cause I failed to mention a European Free Jazz drummer.


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The Byrds have a comp. called "Preflyte." maybe that's what you're thinking of?

You are the first person I have come across to mention Jim Capaldi. Mercilessly underrated. Speaking of Joe Morello, I wonder where Bonzo got the idea for his drum solo.
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I like Blues, Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Acid Rock, Psychedelic Folk etc etc.
You mean freak folk?
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You mean freak folk?
I thought freak folk were the grandparents who take their teeth out during the holiday parties.
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You mean freak folk?
The lines between psychedelic, freak, avant, and contemporary folk are a ****ing mess.
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You mean freak folk?
No, no I don't. I really don't use that term, and really never bother to search "freak folk" to find out what it is all about. I don't know who's who in that category. I've read where Vashti Bunyan is "the Godmother of Freak Folk." But I don't know what bands she spawned spawned bands that are considered Freak Folk.

There are genre terms I use and don't use. I only use the terms I am comfortable with i.e. Acid Folk and Psychedelic Folk. I recognize the term "Anti-Folk" exist but don't use it conversation. You'll never catch me saying 'Wow you have to check out that Anti-Folk artist Regina Spektor' to anyone ever.

There is evil Hipster Folk like The Lumineers. I hate their song Ho Hey with a passion. I don't know if evil Hipster Folk and Freak Folk are synonymous, so I stay away from using the latter.

In short: I use Psychedelic Folk for popular artists like Donovan that are folky and psychedelic. Acid Rock for obscure bands like Mellow Candle and Trees. Folk Rock for 70s bands like America. British Folk Rock for bands like Steeleye Span. Trees are a perfect example of Acid Folk cause they were influenced "Acid" Rock bands from San Franscico and one members was a Folkologist. They are very apt at blending Acid Rock with Folk music together.
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Yeah, ditto on those confusing sub-genre categories. I only use them if I have to, and in full knowledge of the fact that I'm probably getting them wrong.

It's occasionally annoying because it's an area of music I like: I remember me and Neapolitan exploring a whole bunch of Prog Folk artists together, which of course blurs pretty quickly into Psychedelic Folk. Then grindy and I looked at artists like Alek K Redfearn and Lars Hollmer, who have a kind of world folk jazz hybrid sound.

And as for Freak Folk, that became a discernably different genre to me, but only after checking out the music that dankrista put together on this compilatation:-

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Freak Folk

(soon I will stop trembling)


I made this mix few days ago for 8tracks, but inspired by Big Four Bands Thread decided to post it here too. Like I said there, I see freak folk genre as a modern scene influenced by 60s psychedelic jams, especially by more out there freak-outs (Red Krayola, Cromagnon, for example); Sun City Girls/Sir Richard Bishop brand of primitivism; and minimalism/drone of La Monte Young, Tony Conrad, Terry Riley etc...

I didn't make this playlist to be a beginner's guide, but it can serve as one. The mix is more oriented toward mystical, pagan side of freak folk (like being alone in the dark wood). It's interesting to compare it to neo-folk, which is, with its ties to early industrial, drenched in occult; this on the other side is swimming in 'primitive' ritual.

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Fursaxa - "Alone in the Dark Wood" (Alone in the Dark Wood, 2007)
Kabyzdoh Obtruhamchi - "Viva Piskadero!" (Estcho, 2009)
Wooden Veil - "Gloom Across the Ice" (Wooden Veil, 2009)
Inca Ore - "Everlasting Fountain" (Birthday Of Bless You, 2008)
Vibracathedral Orchestra - "Ordinary Babies" (Versatile Arab Chord Chart, 2000)
Islaja - "Palaa aurinkoon" (Palaa aurinkoon, 2005)
Lau Nau - "Kuljen halki kuutarhan" (Kuutarha, 2004)
Spires That in the Sunset Rise - "Bells Don't Ring At Night" (Spires That in the Sunset Rise, 2004)
Anna Homler and Steve Moshier - "Sirens" (Breadwoman & Other Tales, 2016)
Pocahaunted - "Ashes is White" (Island Diamonds, 2008)
Paavoharju - "Vitivalkoinen" (Yhä Hämärää, 2005)
Sun Araw - "The Phynx" (The Phynx, 2008)
Badgerlore - "Building a Nest" (Stories for Owls, 2005)
Topaz Rags - "Darker Sooner" (Capricorn Born Again, 2009)
Charalambides - "Strokes" (Joy Shapes, 2004)
The Tower Recordings - "Harmengi - The Tower Becomes A Sun" (Folkscene, 2001)

Freak Folk download

For those who want to listen on 8tracks (and still can without youtube): 8tracks radio | Soon I will stop trembling (16 songs) | free and music playlist
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