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Old 06-01-2016, 07:04 PM   #631 (permalink)
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Why should you believe in supernatural stuff before there's actual evidence for it? Why not wait?
At this point in history, the supernatural is unfalsifiable since it can neither be proven nor disproven. In that sense, both belief and disbelief are faith-based, not evidence-based
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:17 PM   #632 (permalink)
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Luckily someone who believes in tarot cards will take Monopoly money.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:20 PM   #633 (permalink)
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Luckily someone who believes in tarot cards will take Monopoly money.
First off, I don't believe in Tarot cards. Secondly, I only accept live organs as compensation for my fraudulent services.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:29 PM   #634 (permalink)
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First off, I don't believe in Tarot cards. Secondly, I only accept live organs as compensation for my fraudulent services.
Dude, supernatural and science and no explanations and all that **** you just said.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:31 PM   #635 (permalink)
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Dude, supernatural and science and no explanations and all that **** you just said.
You forever remain an unintriguing mystery to me.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:35 PM   #636 (permalink)
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Dude, supernatural and science and no explanations and all that **** you just said.
:clapping: drunk bat on point tonight.

Anyway, talking about this dream made me buy cigarettes again.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:57 PM   #637 (permalink)
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:clapping: drunk bat on point tonight.

Anyway, talking about this dream made me buy cigarettes again.
Your dream had a happy ending.
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Old 06-01-2016, 11:35 PM   #638 (permalink)
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At this point in history, the supernatural is unfalsifiable since it can neither be proven nor disproven. In that sense, both belief and disbelief are faith-based, not evidence-based
That's not how logic works because there is a difference between positive and negative claims. Saying that you don't believe in something is only a declaration that you have no been presented with sufficient evidence to do away with your doubts -- a totally reasonable position when no evidence at all has been presented. Further, there is a difference between the sentences "I do not believe in X" and "I believe that there is no X". The later requires a justification, the former needs none unless a justification is given for the existence of X.

For instance, I do not believe in the giant plush orang-utan suction cupped to the back of Jupiter. I'm totally justified in my lack of belief in this entity despite the fact that I've never been to Jupiter, because the burden of proof is on the maker of extraordinary claims.

This exists for a reason. The natural conclusion of your line of thinking is silly and absurd: we ought to take every claim, and indeed, every possible metaphysical claim seriously. Since no one has time for this, the only reasonable method of determining what is true and what is false is expecting justifications from those making claims, not the other way around.
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Old 06-02-2016, 03:08 AM   #639 (permalink)
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That's not how logic works because there is a difference between positive and negative claims. Saying that you don't believe in something is only a declaration that you have no been presented with sufficient evidence to do away with your doubts -- a totally reasonable position when no evidence at all has been presented. Further, there is a difference between the sentences "I do not believe in X" and "I believe that there is no X". The later requires a justification, the former needs none unless a justification is given for the existence of X.

For instance, I do not believe in the giant plush orang-utan suction cupped to the back of Jupiter. I'm totally justified in my lack of belief in this entity despite the fact that I've never been to Jupiter, because the burden of proof is on the maker of extraordinary claims.

This exists for a reason. The natural conclusion of your line of thinking is silly and absurd: we ought to take every claim, and indeed, every possible metaphysical claim seriously. Since no one has time for this, the only reasonable method of determining what is true and what is false is expecting justifications from those making claims, not the other way around.

What she said.
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Luckily someone who believes in tarot cards will take Monopoly money.
Youve offended me they pay cash for the psychic hotline bitch.
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