The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (punk, title, quote, Hang)

IamAlejo · 12-05-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

well now you're making no sense what so ever, are you saying i don't respect other peoples opinions or ignore them? why the hell do you think i started this thread?! to hear what others have to say. i think i elaborated my opinion on the death penalty and have responded to oposing opinions stating my reasons for disagreeing in a fairly civilized mannor. i never found your attitude particularly defensive, it's just normal debate attitude, and i certainly don't think i ever lost my temper and started namecalling like some fucking newbie 12 year old....i can't change my opinion on such matters becuase i'm not 12 anymore, i have fairly well though out views on life ,death and politics, i am always willing to admit i'm wrong when it comes to some facts i've misinterpreted, but nothing can change my mind about the death penalty.....

Negative, I completely agree that you wouldn't have started this without wanting to respect others opinions and realize that you do.

I meant that me and you are pretty much/as of now polar opposites on most (political) issues, and that when we hear something the other is about to say we pretty much go into it knowing we aren't going to agree with each other and are both very defensive towards each other with the argument.

right-track · 12-05-2005, 03:51 PM

I've found some of the debate on here lively and fascinating.
In particular the jousting between IamAlejo and adidasss.

It is true to say that you are both polar opposites and irrespective of what my personal opinions are I've come to respect both points of view.
In fact balancing the two opinions, I'd say I've learnt from it.

Great stuff.

adidasss · 12-05-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Yeah, it's like, whoever writes the most wins!

you like boasting about the fact that you can't read through anything that's longer than 2 lines and actually holds some intelligent content?

in any case, yes, i agree with you alejo, but i still get a kick out of argueing with you and trying just the same.....

topic debated, case closed, thread over.....

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 12-05-2005, 03:53 PM

I was joking.

adidasss · 12-05-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I was joking.

uh-huh......[/patronizing]

crimepartner · 12-05-2005, 04:14 PM

why dont they just use criminals in the army?they are the good killers and the kids that go to war dont seem like killing machines.

sleepy jack · 12-05-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crimepartner

why dont they just use criminals in the army?they are the good killers and the kids that go to war dont seem like killing machines.

How loyal do you think criminals are gonna be?

franscar · 12-05-2005, 04:34 PM

An army has to be a disciplined, well trained, cohesive unit.

People who commit crimes are generally none of these things.

SuperPseudonym · 12-05-2005, 04:46 PM

I'm all for the death penalty. If I was to kill someone I'd be much happier with dying than living in jail until I died. (Most of the time) People kill eachother for a reason. If I am to kill someone, I will have made my mind up to do it. Sort of a "going out with a bang" idea. That would be my final act in life. To end the one I hated. You shouldn't be punished for doing what you want, but you'll be ended for it if it's """"bad"""" enough, and if it was worth it, you did the right thing.

If anyone wants to flame me, I'm also for abortion and assisted suicide. Have fun.

crimepartner · 12-05-2005, 04:49 PM

I thought about that LOYALTY deal, but I hate to hear about how some kid gets killed and the parents say he was a perfect child that shouldn't have gone etc. I think its worthy of experimentation. you have to take in the fact that most criminals that have been in the system are always reding books,working out,getting degrees, etc. the government gives them three meals a day + shelter + exercise. I would jsut rather see tax dollars put to a more efficient use. I think some criminals that have legitimatly changed (barring the arguement that criminals never change) and are going to serve a lifes sentence should be put to some kind of reasonable use, rather then living an entire life in some standard of luxory - being that they are kept alive, safe,fed.

12-05-2005, 03:53 PM	#1064 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	I was joking. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

12-05-2005, 04:14 PM	#1066 (permalink)
crimepartner perfect hugging size Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the hearts of millions Posts: 171	why dont they just use criminals in the army?they are the good killers and the kids that go to war dont seem like killing machines. __________________ put that on your biscuits! Squeeze me ma-ac-a-ro-ni... slap your face with my balo-ni....

12-05-2005, 04:34 PM	#1068 (permalink)
franscar Honky Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 665	An army has to be a disciplined, well trained, cohesive unit. People who commit crimes are generally none of these things. __________________ Franscar is metal. You are not.

12-05-2005, 04:46 PM	#1069 (permalink)
SuperPseudonym Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 24	I'm all for the death penalty. If I was to kill someone I'd be much happier with dying than living in jail until I died. (Most of the time) People kill eachother for a reason. If I am to kill someone, I will have made my mind up to do it. Sort of a "going out with a bang" idea. That would be my final act in life. To end the one I hated. You shouldn't be punished for doing what you want, but you'll be ended for it if it's """"bad"""" enough, and if it was worth it, you did the right thing. If anyone wants to flame me, I'm also for abortion and assisted suicide. Have fun. __________________ There is a beast in man that needs to be excercised, not excorcised. -LaVey

12-05-2005, 04:49 PM	#1070 (permalink)
crimepartner perfect hugging size Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the hearts of millions Posts: 171	I thought about that LOYALTY deal, but I hate to hear about how some kid gets killed and the parents say he was a perfect child that shouldn't have gone etc. I think its worthy of experimentation. you have to take in the fact that most criminals that have been in the system are always reding books,working out,getting degrees, etc. the government gives them three meals a day + shelter + exercise. I would jsut rather see tax dollars put to a more efficient use. I think some criminals that have legitimatly changed (barring the arguement that criminals never change) and are going to serve a lifes sentence should be put to some kind of reasonable use, rather then living an entire life in some standard of luxory - being that they are kept alive, safe,fed. __________________ put that on your biscuits! Squeeze me ma-ac-a-ro-ni... slap your face with my balo-ni....

12-05-2005, 03:51 PM	#1062 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	I've found some of the debate on here lively and fascinating. In particular the jousting between IamAlejo and adidasss. It is true to say that you are both polar opposites and irrespective of what my personal opinions are I've come to respect both points of view. In fact balancing the two opinions, I'd say I've learnt from it. Great stuff.