The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (gospel, single, cover, shows)

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 07-25-2006, 04:47 PM

More on Israel and their butt buddies The United States.
Condelleza Rice just pleaded to the Lebanese government to deploy troops to stop Hezbollah.
Who would have though that we would side with Israel..again?

tdoc210 · 07-25-2006, 05:25 PM

^ Me! Me!

riseagainstrocks · 07-25-2006, 05:44 PM

To be honest I don't feel like spending the next 30 minutes defending a nation where I don't live who do things that I sometimes don't agree with.

Fal you are a deeply intelligent kid and I do hope that our paths may cross one day.

I'm conceding. That was way too much to read.

Barnard17 · 07-25-2006, 05:51 PM

I see now why the Republican party in America is so popular. It doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say enough of it, people will give in just to shut you up :P

riseagainstrocks · 07-25-2006, 06:03 PM

I am so not a Republican either.

I'm right wing. But I'm not a Bush fan. At all.

Juggalo4life88 · 07-26-2006, 12:46 AM

I'm all for Israel. Yes, it says in the Bible that God will reinstate the nation of Israel, and they can not be condemned for how it came about. How do you think God was going to do it? Well, in order for the end times chain of events to take place, Israel has to be formed again, not when Jesus returns. That would make no sense and have no purpose. And everyone condemns Israel for attacking Lebanon and Hezbollah, yet since they regained their territory, they have been car bombed, slaughtered, and just wrongly attacked. And when they finally fight back, they are considered "Evil"? What about the violence the muslims have shown time and time again? And what seems humorous is, the rockets that struck Nazareth, which is comprised mostly muslim Israelies, killed two young children. Now, why is it that Hezbollah can't even hit the Jews? Because it seems that their time of punishment is almost over. Israel diserves to recieve it's land back, no matter what the middle easterners want to do about it. It wasn't their's to begin with, it was Israel's. In the end, any nation, no matter it's military status, that has tried to destroy Israel will be obliterated, and in my opinion, the United States will not see as much terror from this in the end, because I believe that the United States will be protected to a degree for our efforts in helping Israel. This country was founded as a place to live in peace to serve God, and we are Israel's sister nation, in a sense. Israel, despite the thoughts of the world right now, will never be obliterated and taken from the face of the Earth again. And Hezbollah, Iran, and anyother nation that goes against them should catch Hell from this. Long live Israel, and our Omnipitent God.

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 07-26-2006, 12:51 AM

So it is okay for Israel to do things that are blatantly wrong, because it is the land that Jesus Christ will be reinstated in?
The Jewish people don't even believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God.

Juggalo4life88 · 07-26-2006, 12:57 AM

No, but you are having trouble understanding the role in which God will use this. Maybe you should read the Bible and learn something about the nation you are condeming. Israel is the chosen nation of God. Once you think of things other than anti war here, you'll get it. Have you ever heard of Purim? If not look it up.

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 07-26-2006, 01:01 AM

I don't give a f*ck if Israel is the "chosen nation of god"
They are wrong. There are just as many attacks on Palestine by the Israelis as there attacks on Israel by the Palestinians. Israel is occupying land in Lebanon illegal.
It isn't land that was given to Israel, so Hezbollah is pissed. It is Lebanese soil.
They need to get their f*cking military off the land.
When they don't, well, this is what happens.

Juggalo4life88 · 07-26-2006, 01:21 AM

Israel is not wrong. The land that Palestine and Lebanon and a few others now occupy, was originally Israel's. And And why do you have to get so pissed off about it. Are you Lebanese? Israel will never give in to those countries, God won't allow them to lose their land again either. There is no force in the world other than God that can defeat Israel in the long run, and those other nations will wind up losing land that wasn't their's to begin with.

07-25-2006, 05:25 PM	#1712 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	^ Me! Me! __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-25-2006, 05:44 PM	#1713 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	To be honest I don't feel like spending the next 30 minutes defending a nation where I don't live who do things that I sometimes don't agree with. Fal you are a deeply intelligent kid and I do hope that our paths may cross one day. I'm conceding. That was way too much to read. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

07-25-2006, 05:51 PM	#1714 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	I see now why the Republican party in America is so popular. It doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say enough of it, people will give in just to shut you up :P __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

07-25-2006, 06:03 PM	#1715 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	I am so not a Republican either. I'm right wing. But I'm not a Bush fan. At all. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

07-26-2006, 12:46 AM	#1716 (permalink)
Juggalo4life88 I'm a ****er ain't I.lol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bad Axe, MI Posts: 122	I'm all for Israel. Yes, it says in the Bible that God will reinstate the nation of Israel, and they can not be condemned for how it came about. How do you think God was going to do it? Well, in order for the end times chain of events to take place, Israel has to be formed again, not when Jesus returns. That would make no sense and have no purpose. And everyone condemns Israel for attacking Lebanon and Hezbollah, yet since they regained their territory, they have been car bombed, slaughtered, and just wrongly attacked. And when they finally fight back, they are considered "Evil"? What about the violence the muslims have shown time and time again? And what seems humorous is, the rockets that struck Nazareth, which is comprised mostly muslim Israelies, killed two young children. Now, why is it that Hezbollah can't even hit the Jews? Because it seems that their time of punishment is almost over. Israel diserves to recieve it's land back, no matter what the middle easterners want to do about it. It wasn't their's to begin with, it was Israel's. In the end, any nation, no matter it's military status, that has tried to destroy Israel will be obliterated, and in my opinion, the United States will not see as much terror from this in the end, because I believe that the United States will be protected to a degree for our efforts in helping Israel. This country was founded as a place to live in peace to serve God, and we are Israel's sister nation, in a sense. Israel, despite the thoughts of the world right now, will never be obliterated and taken from the face of the Earth again. And Hezbollah, Iran, and anyother nation that goes against them should catch Hell from this. Long live Israel, and our Omnipitent God. __________________ Ladies and gentlemen come here, major greeting Your keeper of wickedry, the path to shangrila Is missled by he, missled by you He is of your negativity, he is of your hate Meet the other half of the jugglin duo That is your soul The amazing jack jeckel!!!! Jeckel another j catch one more Theyll try and catch all thats instore for you How many souls will fall from the sky? How many souls burned wonderin why?

07-25-2006, 04:47 PM	#1711 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	More on Israel and their butt buddies The United States. Condelleza Rice just pleaded to the Lebanese government to deploy troops to stop Hezbollah. Who would have though that we would side with Israel..again?

07-26-2006, 12:51 AM	#1717 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	So it is okay for Israel to do things that are blatantly wrong, because it is the land that Jesus Christ will be reinstated in? The Jewish people don't even believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God.

07-26-2006, 12:57 AM	#1718 (permalink)
Juggalo4life88 I'm a ****er ain't I.lol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bad Axe, MI Posts: 122	No, but you are having trouble understanding the role in which God will use this. Maybe you should read the Bible and learn something about the nation you are condeming. Israel is the chosen nation of God. Once you think of things other than anti war here, you'll get it. Have you ever heard of Purim? If not look it up. __________________ Ladies and gentlemen come here, major greeting Your keeper of wickedry, the path to shangrila Is missled by he, missled by you He is of your negativity, he is of your hate Meet the other half of the jugglin duo That is your soul The amazing jack jeckel!!!! Jeckel another j catch one more Theyll try and catch all thats instore for you How many souls will fall from the sky? How many souls burned wonderin why?

07-26-2006, 01:01 AM	#1719 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	I don't give a fck if Israel is the "chosen nation of god" They are wrong. There are just as many attacks on Palestine by the Israelis as there attacks on Israel by the Palestinians. Israel is occupying land in Lebanon illegal. It isn't land that was given to Israel, so Hezbollah is pissed. It is Lebanese soil. They need to get their fcking military off the land. When they don't, well, this is what happens.

07-26-2006, 01:21 AM	#1720 (permalink)
Juggalo4life88 I'm a ****er ain't I.lol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bad Axe, MI Posts: 122	Israel is not wrong. The land that Palestine and Lebanon and a few others now occupy, was originally Israel's. And And why do you have to get so pissed off about it. Are you Lebanese? Israel will never give in to those countries, God won't allow them to lose their land again either. There is no force in the world other than God that can defeat Israel in the long run, and those other nations will wind up losing land that wasn't their's to begin with. __________________ Ladies and gentlemen come here, major greeting Your keeper of wickedry, the path to shangrila Is missled by he, missled by you He is of your negativity, he is of your hate Meet the other half of the jugglin duo That is your soul The amazing jack jeckel!!!! Jeckel another j catch one more Theyll try and catch all thats instore for you How many souls will fall from the sky? How many souls burned wonderin why?