The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (show, quote, Gender, Hang)

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-21-2007, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

religion shows a lack of intelligence

david bowie avatars show a lack of heterosexuality

DearJenny · 02-21-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

religion shows a lack of intelligence

That is such an ignorant comment. It's funny some people try so hard to fit in. You try your hardest to piss absolutely everyone off. Just because someone is religious doesnt mean they're dumb. I have many relious friends that score higher than most and have more than decent comon sense. Dont sling comments out that you cant back up.

DontRunMeOver · 02-21-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

religion shows a lack of intelligence

I've got to disagree with you on that. I believe that all religions are mostly incorrect in their explanations for how and why anything exists and that every religion have some stupid ideas and practises coupled with some that are less stupid and a some which are really quite good. The fact that they have both flaws and failures doesn't indicate a lack of intelligence. It indicates that it was chosen, either by society or by the indivdual, from all of the equally flawed religious and non-religious philosophies available.

In my opinion, this assortment of good and band ideas is largely the case with ANYBODYS worldview and ideas for how things come about and what the best way to behave is. We're all pretty stupid and illogical most of the time, religion just gives people a framework for that stupidity.

tdoc210 · 02-21-2007, 09:30 AM

^ it shows a lack of thinking "outside the box"
it shows that they want to conform to a set of ideas not their own, voiding some of their individuality.

tdoc210 · 02-21-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay

david bowie avatars show a lack of heterosexuality

no one said i was

DontRunMeOver · 02-21-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

it shows that they want to conform to a set of ideas not their own, voiding some of their individuality.

That's just from one perspective, from another one it could be said that they're avoiding having to "reinvent the wheel". If somebody spends less time pontificating about what their own opinions and philosophies are and just uses those which other people have presented to them then in a sense it frees them up a lot to actually get things done.

At the same time, like you said, following somebody elses mantras may cause you to lose some of your individuality. In the end, though, you may well end up following your own mantras so it might not be all that different, except for the time spent developing your own personal dogma. We become pretty set in our ways sometime in our 20's so anticipating the continuation of your own originality and flexibility, and ignoring established frameworks, may not be the best way to go. You may just end up following your own equally useless set of mental rules. I think I've probably started doing that myself by now.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-21-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

^ it shows a lack of thinking "outside the box"
it shows that they want to conform to a set of ideas not their own, voiding some of their individuality.

I've seen whats "outside the box".......and I'll stick with the box.

Just because you associate with people with similar beliefs makes you a conformist? No. It means that youve weighed all the options and found the religion that you believe to be true. How is that conforming?

adidasss · 02-21-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

Just because you associate with people with similar beliefs makes you a conformist? No. It means that you've weighed all the options and found the religion that you believe to be true.

Totally agree.

tdoc210 · 02-21-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

I've seen whats "outside the box".......and I'll stick with the box.

Just because you associate with people with similar beliefs makes you a conformist? No. It means that youve weighed all the options and found the religion that you believe to be true. How is that conforming?

not a conformist, but you're conforming to that sect.

sleepy jack · 02-21-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

Just because you associate with people with similar beliefs makes you a conformist? No. It means that youve weighed all the options and found the religion that you believe to be true. How is that conforming?

Am I the only one that finds this statement funny coming from the person who attacks anyone not christian/republican and calls them close-minded conformists who only dislike bush because its popular?

Heres one just made recently:

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Originally Posted by oojay

It just proves that speaking out against the president is the flavor of the week. Yay! Let's reward trends!

You see, you're just following the popular train if you dislike bush but if you support him, THEN you're individual!

02-21-2007, 09:30 AM	#2884 (permalink)
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