The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (American, show, classic, quote)

[hookers with machineguns]

Can an incompetent individual be capable of killing millions and "destroying the world" as one person put it?
Bush's "incompetence" has nothing to do with this fallout in foreign policy. It is his ignorance, his dumbfounded slack-jawed approach to fighting "evildoers", and his total disregard and misunderstanding of middle-eastern culture. It isn't his fault though, it is his cronies/adminstration that makes the suggestions and recommendations. He is merely a puppet. As you are saying, he is "incompetent," which would imply that he probably doesn't have the capacity to come up with such bold proposals on his own. But, Bush is hardly responsible for the spread of ignorance or social decay. Americans misinterpret the world, just as much as the world misinterprets America. Saying one nationality is more ignorant than another- is truly the most ignorant thing ever said.
BTW, if you are watching an Inauguration Speech by any president expecting honesty and personal fulfilment, then I sympathize for you. These "gala's" are so glitzy, glamorous, and staged that you would think that Bush was giving an Oscar speech. It's a political showcase that is absolutely meaningless. You have to realize that Kerry could have easily given the same speech, people would still be dying, and we would still be at war.

[franscar]

Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Personally many of our troops are dying because we are trying to fight a politically correct war with people who don't give a **** about political correctness. This thing could easily be over if we weren't trying to appease the UN, NATO, other countries, etc.

I think it has a lot more to do with spending millions of dollars on balls and dances rather than actually giving his armed forces basic training and equipment. I'm sure it isn't your assertion, but that post comes across as if you've decided that the opinions of countries that differ to that of America are uninmportant and should be disregarded as George bulldozes his way towards "freedom". That sort of attitude pretty much sums up in a nutshell what many people dislike about America.

[IamAlejo]

Well being from a military family it just sort of gets on my nerve when people complain about all those who are dying. You have to understand that when we are in towns housing the rebels who are fighting, we can't simply corner it off and launch a missile towards it. Why? Not because it's uneffective, but because you can see how everyone would complain about what ruthless killers we are.

[franscar]

I understand perfectly the situation going on over there, I and anyone who looked at the war objectively from the outset knew that the only possible outcome of the "war" was that it would become a guerilla war, fought within the buildings of the towns. Did the American military learn nothing from Somalia?

A ground incursion in an urban area simply will not work unless the Americans decide on a policy of mass genocide of anyone and anything that moves in Tikrit, Baghdad or Fallujah. But then, what was the point of "liberating" the Iraqi people if all you are going to do is blow them all to Heaven?

[hookers with machineguns]

I don't think anyone has pointed out that the war's main outcome is the increase of anti-westernization/America and more propaganda for terrorists to recruit those that have been "oppressed" by american "invasion." The U.S. is already looked upon negatively throughout the world. It'll become easier for terrorists to recruit members of all ethnicities and nationalities. This isn't fighting terrorism, this is creating terrorism. That's what happens when you don't make the right moves.

[SwitchFootRocks!]

Thank you. That was very greatly said. Like covle said, if you dont live in america or have visited here for a while you have no idea what america is like. sure you have you opinions but most of the time you (all the people that dont know what they are talking about) are making fale assumptons and you need to stop. true our government if ****ed but you dont know us as american citezens. that is all i have to say.

[Yellow Card]

hey. recently in my sose my class, we watched a documentry on a woman called Jane Elliot who talked about the severe racist issues in america. She commented on how all the text books in public schools in america were someway or another biased, or racist. I was just wondering if any of you guys had noticed it, and could tell me what it has.

[SwitchFootRocks!]

Some of our Teachers are.

[ArtistInTheAmbulance]

Its so rare nowadays that when you find someone who is a racist, the people around that person dont let the racist person get away with it. That was really confusing to type... But yeah, its so rare now that I dont know anyone who is racist, which is good. Obviously.

[IamAlejo]

In my old AP Stat book, there was a picture of a College graduation, and it was all white people and one black guy who turned around towards the camera and was giving a thumbs up. And the caption what "What are the odds of this?" It was too funny, politically incorrect, but classic.