The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (quote, Ching, Hang, Organ)

riseagainstrocks · 03-18-2005, 06:18 PM

the UN has no power and is a joke. The U.S. would do better to pull out. a world court is a good idea but not making security decisions without an army.

Tommyrocker · 03-20-2005, 04:17 AM

To all skeptics....Geneva convention - nuff said

All_Nite_Dinah · 03-21-2005, 06:36 AM

ha do you realize that the geneva accords happened over 50 years ago?

covle · 10-06-2005, 02:56 AM

iv been doing a lot of studying on the origins of christianity in recent times and am wanting to talk REASONABLY about it. i have nothing against christians, it just doesnt seem rational to me to follow something that was completely altered from its original state and forgered over the following centuries. barely anything is or was original in the whole religion.

again, i am after a debate, i will respect all things said by anyone in a reasonable response

Merkaba · 10-06-2005, 03:49 AM

I disrespect religion these days for exactly that reason. I know this guy who practically lives at the local church, he has c.ds on religion, books, he does work for the church and so on. But the guy is as un-religious, not in belief but in actions, as the next. Bar the nieve self esteem which he gains from believing in God, he still swears, drinks, eyes up women and generally attempts to be as much of a "man" as he can. Is that not hypocritical in the extreme?

I do not know how correct the Passion of the Christ is (you know the movie..) but if it is a true representation of Jesus than I am glad I am not a believer. In the film Jesus is saying he is the only way, the all important, if you will. I find it very arrogant and disrespectful of a humans intelligence, to try and con them into relying on a system of belief. It is a critisism of mans ability to walk on our own two feet and be independent. I would feel foolish to neglect all the joys of the "real" world just stay faithful to a way that will never be.

I know that is not entirely what you are wanting, but it is my view upon religion so I hope it helps in some way.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-06-2005, 04:04 AM

Well I'm Catholic so I can't help!

dog · 10-06-2005, 04:07 AM

posting in heaps threads like this. said the same every time, that being, that i was baptised a christian and stuff, but dont believe in anything, and think theres no afterlife of anything holy or greater than us.

Merkaba · 10-06-2005, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledzeppelinrulz

theres no afterlife of anything holy or greater than us.

Effing aye. Superbly stated.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-06-2005, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledzeppelinrulz

posting in heaps threads like this. said the same every time, that being, that i was baptised a christian and stuff, but dont believe in anything, and think theres no afterlife of anything holy or greater than us.

i wholeheartedly disagree. if there is nothing greater than us, how do we exist? how did we get here? i believe in heaven and hell. its just karma. what comes around goes around. if u live a good life u will be rewarded, but if u live a bad life u will be punished. btw ledzep, if u dont believe in afterlife do u believe in reincarnation? just curious.

inside_out · 10-06-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay

i wholeheartedly disagree. if there is nothing greater than us, how do we exist? how did we get here? i believe in heaven and hell. its just karma. what comes around goes around. if u live a good life u will be rewarded, but if u live a bad life u will be punished. btw ledzep, if u dont believe in afterlife do u believe in reincarnation? just curious.

I pretty much agree with this.
I am Christian, btw.

03-18-2005, 06:18 PM	#601 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	the UN has no power and is a joke. The U.S. would do better to pull out. a world court is a good idea but not making security decisions without an army. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

03-21-2005, 06:36 AM	#603 (permalink)
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10-06-2005, 02:56 AM	#604 (permalink)
covle Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 334	The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread iv been doing a lot of studying on the origins of christianity in recent times and am wanting to talk REASONABLY about it. i have nothing against christians, it just doesnt seem rational to me to follow something that was completely altered from its original state and forgered over the following centuries. barely anything is or was original in the whole religion. again, i am after a debate, i will respect all things said by anyone in a reasonable response __________________ LIVE.LOVE.BURN.DIE. whoa...i quoted atreyu, that means im hardcore. look how hardcore i am!! thats hardcore...XXX

10-06-2005, 03:49 AM	#605 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	I disrespect religion these days for exactly that reason. I know this guy who practically lives at the local church, he has c.ds on religion, books, he does work for the church and so on. But the guy is as un-religious, not in belief but in actions, as the next. Bar the nieve self esteem which he gains from believing in God, he still swears, drinks, eyes up women and generally attempts to be as much of a "man" as he can. Is that not hypocritical in the extreme? I do not know how correct the Passion of the Christ is (you know the movie..) but if it is a true representation of Jesus than I am glad I am not a believer. In the film Jesus is saying he is the only way, the all important, if you will. I find it very arrogant and disrespectful of a humans intelligence, to try and con them into relying on a system of belief. It is a critisism of mans ability to walk on our own two feet and be independent. I would feel foolish to neglect all the joys of the "real" world just stay faithful to a way that will never be. I know that is not entirely what you are wanting, but it is my view upon religion so I hope it helps in some way. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

10-06-2005, 04:04 AM	#606 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	Well I'm Catholic so I can't help! __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

10-06-2005, 04:07 AM	#607 (permalink)
dog this bird has flown Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: paris,texas Posts: 860	posting in heaps threads like this. said the same every time, that being, that i was baptised a christian and stuff, but dont believe in anything, and think theres no afterlife of anything holy or greater than us. __________________ formerly ledzeppelinrulz. http://theraffinkids.bandcamp.com/ music^