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TheUsedToolguy 02-23-2007 07:59 PM

Bahai
 
Anyone ever heard of Bahai. It's a faith that believes Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Buddha & The Bab were all spiritual messengers, and should all be viewed as equally important. The Bab (prounounced Bob) is the most recent one. I disagree w/ it as far as being spiritual messengers, but at least the philosophy of it solves the problem, which religion is right?
Answer, they're all right. We all follow 1 god. We just have different names for him. If some believe there are many gods, it doesn't mean they should be exiled. When some people thought the earth was flat, they weren't being mamed for their beliefs. I'm not even saying that it's crazy to think there are more than 1 god. Some people see the sun, stars and constellations as gods. What's wrong w/ that. The Sun could be representative of our source of life, and it gives us life, without it we would perish, so it could be seen as god. Stars could serve the same purpose for other lifeforms in other galaxies far away. I just say they're all right and leave it at that. It's a lot better than fighting wars w/ people bcuz u don't refer to something by the same name, as some of our ancient ancestors did.

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:03 PM

It seems like a sound philosophy, but it also seems like a bit of a cop-out to me. "Which religion is right? All of them."

TheUsedToolguy 02-23-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 340471)
It seems like a sound philosophy, but it also seems like a bit of a cop-out to me. "Which religion is right? All of them."

What are you saying, you'd rather die being right, than explore the possibility that you don't know everything? I'm not saying you'll die bcuz you believe your religion is right, but why not at least admit that you don't know everything yet, and never will know everything, so why not just say, 'Others could b right, I could see that'

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 340481)
What are you saying, you'd rather die being right, than explore the possibility that you don't know everything? I'm not saying you'll die bcuz you believe your religion is right, but why not at least admit that you don't know everything yet, and never will know everything, so why not just say, 'Others could b right, I could see that'

I said nothing of the sort, I'm just saying that the whole jist of it sounds to me like a cop-out. But hey, to each his own.

sleepy jack 02-23-2007 08:17 PM

I wouldn't throw Buddhism, Satanism and Christianity in the same bucket.

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 340483)
I wouldn't throw Buddhism, Satanism and Christianity in the same bucket.

Thats what I'm sayin:beer:


I agree that each person has the right to praise their own god, but to say that its the same entity, just with a different name, is wrong.

TheUsedToolguy 02-23-2007 08:31 PM

Believing in a god/ or gods, to me is the same thing. And when I say that, remember it's okay if it's a copout or compromise to some degree bcuz nations hav actually gone to war over not being the same religion. As far as atheist, I don't bash them. Then I would be a hypocrite,bcuz I don't consider myself a patriot. To be in spiritual dissent is no different than to be in political dissent. An atheist clearly doesn't believe in gods, I know most atheists aren't bad people. A lot of them are very rational thinking people. I just wish everyone would investigate, and leave everyone else free to investigate for themselves.

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 340500)
Believing in a god/ or gods, to me is the same thing. And when I say that, remember it's okay if it's a copout or compromise to some degree bcuz nations hav actually gone to war over not being the same religion. As far as atheist, I don't bash them. Then I would be a hypocrite,bcuz I don't consider myself a patriot. To be in spiritual dissent is no different than to be in political dissent. An atheist clearly doesn't believe in gods, I know most atheists aren't bad people. A lot of them are very rational thinking people. I just wish everyone would investigate, and leave everyone else free to investigate for themselves.

It is a free country, believe whatever you want. We may disagree around here, but in the end we all respect each other's right of personal opinion.

sleepy jack 02-23-2007 08:42 PM

/pees on everyones personal opinion

TheUsedToolguy 02-23-2007 08:44 PM

As far as Satanist, you're obviously look at Satan as some type of godly or higher being; or lower being; lower being the same as higher. Did you know the human eye sees everything upside down, then like a camera, refracts the lights to look right side up. So right now the earth is above you, higher than the ceiling which is actually the floor, which you're sitting on upside down, typing on an upside down computer. HaHa Wacky

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 340518)
As far as Satanist, you're obviously look at Satan as some type of godly or higher being; or lower being; lower being the same as higher. Did you know the human eye sees everything upside down, then like a camera, refracts the lights to look right side up. So right now the earth is above you, higher than the ceiling which is actually the floor, which you're sitting on upside down, typing on an upside down computer. HaHa Wacky

This is a perfect example of why not to smoke crack.

sleepy jack 02-23-2007 08:46 PM

and when I see you, I really see you upside down, but my brain knows better, it picks you up and turns you around.

[MERIT] 02-23-2007 08:48 PM

So when you look someone in the eye, your both upside down, so it evens out?

TheUsedToolguy 02-23-2007 08:49 PM

Yeah, and for the last time I don't smoke crack; it's a combo of salinated smokesex and watergumballs

BlackBallBusta 02-24-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 340363)
Did you know that according to CNN, atheists are the most hated minority in America?

Sad huh.

99% of Americans said they would vote for a women if they felt she was well-qualified.

74% of Americans said they would vote for a homosexual is they felt that he/she was well qualified.

30% of Americans said they would vote for an atheist if they felt that he/she was well qualified.

Sad since atheists seem to be the most reasonable, rational people around.
I surely don't want to be led by a man who thinks that at any moment his savior could ascend from the heavens and transport him to some paradise and inflict otherworldly plauges on all the Godless un-believers.

BlackBallBusta 02-24-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 340518)
As far as Satanist, you're obviously look at Satan as some type of godly or higher being; or lower being; lower being the same as higher. Did you know the human eye sees everything upside down, then like a camera, refracts the lights to look right side up. So right now the earth is above you, higher than the ceiling which is actually the floor, which you're sitting on upside down, typing on an upside down computer. HaHa Wacky

Satanists do not think that Satan is a god. Satanists do not believe that "Satan" exists.
Read up on your religions before you try to define them.

Also, Buddhism is a non-theistic religion. They do not think that there is a God, and they don't think that Buddha is/was a God. Read up before you define.

TheUsedToolguy 02-24-2007 11:15 AM

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I surely don't want to be led by a man who thinks that at any moment his savior could ascend from the heavens and transport him to some paradise and inflict otherworldly plauges on all the Godless un-believers.
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or how about some people thinking that just because u were born in the U.S. makes u morally superior in the eyes of God?

Rage Against the Machine:
this is God's land, you were chosen

obviously a very sarcastic stab at Fundamentalist Christians

TheUsedToolguy 02-24-2007 11:17 AM

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Also, Buddhism is a non-theistic religion. They do not think that there is a God, and they don't think that Buddha is/was a God. Read up before you define.
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That's interesting I didn't know that. I would consider myself un-decided; but I would say I'm closest to a Zen Buddhist.

BlackBallBusta 02-24-2007 11:17 AM

Hah, the US isn't even that great. Not bad, but just okay.
I'd live in Switzerland over America anyday.

Wait..you consider yourself a Buddhist yet didn't know that Buddhists do not believe in a diety?

Kevorkian Logic 02-24-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBallBusta (Post 340695)
Sad huh.

99% of Americans said they would vote for a women if they felt she was well-qualified.

74% of Americans said they would vote for a homosexual is they felt that he/she was well qualified.

30% of Americans said they would vote for an atheist if they felt that he/she was well qualified.

Sad since atheists seem to be the most reasonable, rational people around.
I surely don't want to be led by a man who thinks that at any moment his savior could ascend from the heavens and transport him to some paradise and inflict otherworldly plauges on all the Godless un-believers.

Where did those statistics come from? I would never vote for a women, even if she was well qualified. Way too hormonal people, the country would go to hell every month for the period of 3-7 days.

right-track 02-25-2007 06:38 AM

The Official God FAQ

There. ^

That settles the Religious debate then.

tdoc210 02-25-2007 08:41 AM

lulz

i get high sometimes 08-14-2007 09:31 PM

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I am only old here and at the bars we play in, I am young everywhere else so no worries.

As far as the political banter, it's easy to spot a staunch liberal or conservative from miles away. There is no talking sense into them, they see the world in a very black and white way mine is as I believe jgd said very much grey. While politics are a delightful topic, I keep my distance from such debates online, it never goes anywhere.

I will say with comfortably certainty...

If you don't know how unselfish men like Regan and Nixon were, you need to freshen up on history before the political revisionists got to it. Say what you will about their politics, they both gave of themselves and their time throughout their entire lives like few since have. They were good men with good intentions and that counts for something.
this is the right thread to reply to this in. if you don't wanna have a friendly debate then thats fine.

I will start by saying that I am a staunch liberal. There is nothing wrong with that, and using it as a means of putting someones ideas down is pointless. I don't see a problem with aligning myself with a political philosophy that believes all people have equal chance to be successful, and believes that the government shouldn't let big business run politics, which is what has happened throughout many modern GOP administrations.

Reagan and Nixon were not good men, and certainly not good presidents. I honestly have never heard anyone defend Nixon, he was a disgrace even to the Republican party, and that takes talent. He was political scum, violated the constitution, and let the country down on his promise when he took his oath to uphold the constitutiton and perform his duties to the best of his abilities. He knowingly stole information, commited campaign fraud, sabatoge, wiretapped American citizens illegally, and then purposefully covered these activities and lied to the American people about it. You are certainly in the minorty, even among Repulicans, in your praise of Richard Nixon. Digust for him is nearly universal. I am very intrested in why it is that you chose to mention him, of any president you could have chosen to praise. A horrible, horrible man.

As for Reagan. I really detest the notion that Reagans election was an American call for 'conservatism'. Only 1% of the electorate stated their reason for voting for Reagan was "Because he is a true conservative". There was no American call for conservatism, and boy was that drawn out and used to justify his actions. I realize that probably isn't all his fault, but it is aggravating. Anyway, onto Reagan's real crimes. Aggressive war in Nicaragua, in which he knowingly sponsered terrorism, and not only sponsered it, but armed the terrorists. He knew the Contras were terrorists, and yet he continued to fund them. Why? Because they were attempting to overthrow the Sandinistas. A democratically elected party, whom he felt were too liberal. So, like most presidents would have done during the Cold War, he labeled them communist. But he didn't stop with the labeling. He then proceded to launch a massive terrorist war in Nicaragua, which led to mass civilian casualties in the most brutal of ways. How was he funding these terrorists without the American public knowing? By illegally selling weapons to Iran, and then sneaking the money under the table to support the contras. That is not the makings of a good man, or a righteous man. That is American greed at its finest. He used the tag-on communism to justify his war in a country that he felt was coming under too much control of his own government. His legacy hasn't faded if you couldn't draw somewhat of a parrallel between that and what is happening in this administration.

MHDTV 08-14-2007 09:36 PM

God FAQ, lol.

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