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Old 01-29-2011, 12:11 PM   #7051 (permalink)
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Nevertheless, I would have a really tough time picking which I'd rather shoot, my cat or my girlfriend. I think I'd pick shooting myself.
I'm not trying to start this discussion all over again, but, you have a girlfriend? Is it the same girl as we've been talking about? I'm just confused is all, as to who is who in your life, haha.
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:28 PM   #7052 (permalink)
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It's harder for me to empathize with people than with animals.
Same here. When I see a suffering animal, I can't help but think of my own pets, and how helpless they are in the face of human power.
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:33 PM   #7053 (permalink)
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it's pretty sad how society equates humans with being so low on the totem pole of needing help.

an animal would get better treatment than say a homeless man.

It pretty much goes like this animal>kids>homeless woman>homeless man and the thing is, it doesnt even have to be a homeless man. It could just be a wounded guy on the side of the road but he would get passed over because he's the lowest on the totem pole.
Totally agree. It's sad we don't value human life the way we do animals.

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Nevertheless, I would have a really tough time picking which I'd rather shoot, my cat or my girlfriend.
I'll just never understand this mentality. I'd shoot my cat in a second before I'd shoot my girlfriend. I can't believe some people actually have to question that.
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:39 PM   #7054 (permalink)
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it's pretty sad how society equates humans with being so low on the totem pole of needing help.

an animal would get better treatment than say a homeless man.

It pretty much goes like this animal>kids>homeless woman>homeless man and the thing is, it doesnt even have to be a homeless man. It could just be a wounded guy on the side of the road but he would get passed over because he's the lowest on the totem pole.
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Totally agree. It's sad we don't value human life the way we do animals.
You guys must be kidding. Do you really think we as a society value non-humans more than humans? How much prison time do you think you'd get for killing a cat versus killing a human? Better yet, how do think people would react if you ate human versus eating... say... a cow?
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Humanity is defined by how we treat animals. The differences between us define humans. Without animals, there would be humans, but no humanity.
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:45 PM   #7056 (permalink)
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You guys must be kidding. Do you really think we as a society value non-humans more than humans? How much prison time do you think you'd get for killing a cat versus killing a human? Better yet, how do think people would react if you ate human versus eating... say... a cow?
all i have to say is look at Michael Vick.

also that's a bad analogy. it would have to be eating a human vs eating a domestic cat/dog
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all i have to say is look at Michael Vick.

also that's a bad analogy. it would have to be eating a human vs eating a domestic cat/dog
What's your point exactly? He did not even a year for being a piece of human garbage.
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I would definitely say that most people put humans far above animals on the priority list. Don't worry guys, humanity isn't "going down the toilet". You just post on a forum with a bunch of misanthropists and animal lovers.
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all i have to say is look at Michael Vick.
Yes, good example, look at Michael Vick. He was sentenced to 23 months for hanging and drowning 6-8 dogs. If he drowned and hanged 6-8 people do you really think he would've only received 23 months in prison? And do you think he'd be able to go back to playing pro football if he ever got out?

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also that's a bad analogy. it would have to be eating a human vs eating a domestic cat/dog
You didn't specify "domestic cat/dog", you just said "animals". But do you seriously think there'd be more of an outrage over someone eating a cat than there would over someone eating a human?
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You guys must be kidding. Do you really think we as a society value non-humans more than humans? How much prison time do you think you'd get for killing a cat versus killing a human? Better yet, how do think people would react if you ate human versus eating... say... a cow?
Depends how good your lawyer is

I went a little far to say "we," and saying all society, but I'm really just trying to express how stupid I think it is for people to put animals on the same plane as people. People like sk who have to wonder if they would rather shoot a cat or their girlfriend. In other threads I've seen people say they'd rather hit a person with their car than an animal. I feel like a lot of people don't have much sympathy for a homeless person begging for change, but all the sympathy in the world for a dog or cat or something.
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