mr dave

my bad, i dug around a bit and i obviously heard wrong. the states have twice as many guns or so.

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TheBig3

Yeah I get this every once in awhile. So since I can't rely on people to read prior threads and retain that information, I'll be writting in complete sentences that I'm sure you'll skip over because its a giant wall of text.

• UTG claims that Fox news has a horrible bias
• I suggest we bomb them because they have a bias
• He claims he wouldn't want that, then goes on to quote Marvin ***e
• My claim that he has no point here, but that he just wants to tell us something we already know (the fox is bias) is proved by his continual assertion that there is a problem (the bias) but offers no solution.
• Let me reiterate in case its cleverly overlooked, he presents a problem but will not speak of any solution
• He commits his own bias in his retorts to my claims when he either dodges an issue (suggesting I'm mature rather than debating the topic at hand) or omitting things like the fact that I've voted for Obama. Despite this, he goes on to call me bias.

I'd also like to mention that despite my continual conviction that
1. Fox news is bias and
2. we already knew that.

he continues to say it as if he's the only one with access to the truth and he's some how liberating us. I'm also sure Ethan also pointed out that we all knew Fix was bias, but I can't be certain.

So my point, for the 45th time is that you have no point. Bias is wrong when fox does it, but not when you do it, because you're smarter than the rest of society and you're trying to save them from becoming the mind-controlled zombies of 1984.

mr. daves assertion that you're a step away from a tin foil hat is correct, he just forgot to mention the wool socks and the teva's.

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Zombeels

Yes all those except a few loyal followers know that.
Like the way the US bombed Al Jazerra. C'mon we can't bring ourselves to that level.
Not sure who Marvin is.
Ahhhh, we have to have a solution before we can criticize anything. Gotcha
Well everyone is biased to some degree. If you are stating your opinion then it will be biased towards yourself. If you are stating information or a fact objectively then this would show little or no bias.

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TheBig3

well if there weren't a few looney toons they wouldn't be in business. Theres always a margin of error.

Well My suggestion to do that was an exageration. It also was there to point out that he hadn't suggested what we do about this bias.


Are you suggesting mindless gripes are a positive thing. Why is it a lot to ask for someone to say "this is wrong, I think we should try this."

To suggest that you don't need to offer solutions to problems is terribly backward.

[/QUOTE]Well everyone is biased to some degree. If you are stating your opinion then it will be biased towards yourself. If you are stating information or a fact objectively then this would show little or no bias.[/QUOTE]

Biased toward yourself? What?

As far as being void of bias, thats simply not acheivable. You don't need to be a post-modernist to know that.

But you should enjoy this. Civics For Poets: Fox News Morans Think Lincoln Debated Emancipated Slave

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Miltamec Soundsquinaez

Nice way to spin my words and do what FoxNews does. If you would go back and read my post you would see that I said, 'Virtually Nonexistent'. [Yes, I actually thought there had never been one single violent crime committed in the history of Canada]-sarcasm. I was basing that off of some special I saw on T.V. which was showing how many Canadians are very trustworthy of the people that live in their towns, and they don't even lock their doors at night. I would love for any of you from Canada to give us some insight on this.

Alfred

Don't jump into conclusions.

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Miltamec Soundsquinaez

Not only did I saw FoxNews was biased, but I was giving some very recent, little known facts about Bill Ayers, Obama's so called 'terrorist friend'. But you already knew that, didn't you Big3? The fact that maybe some other people on this forum hadn't known that, doesn't matter does it? No, because you're the only one on this forum that matters, and you already know everything I'm going to say before I even say it.
BTW, the solution you keep asking about is the thread itself: information.

mr dave

read my first post in the gun control thread.

as of 2002 canada effectively double the united states in violent crimes per capita. the homicide rate may be different but violent crime is NOT 'virtually nonexistant' in canada. we're not an entire nation of tree hugging hippies.

good thing you based yourself on a tv special about a canadian stereotype instead of doing a little research. no wonder you're so informative...

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Information alone doesn't have the charisma to make people honestly think.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez

Your research was just found faulty in that gun crime thread. You said Canada had double the violent crimes per capita, then the next poster came back and said U.S. had a higher rate of gun crime than Canada, and also the U.S. rate of violent crime was 5 per 100,000 and Canada-1 per 100,000.
Yeah, I based myself on a Canadian stereotype, even though on the show, they were interviewing actual physical real live Canadians. You realize that's possible don't you. God, I don't even know why I'm trying to keep up with you and Big3.

p.s. Big3, in case you read this. I'm calling you out as being a hypocrite, because just a few weeks ago, you made a thread called, 'do you like politics?' which I can only assume was meant to further the politicaly discourse. Then, you attack me for doing just that. Yeah, we already know FoxNews is biased. Don't act like just because you know something, that everyone else must already know it, too.