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DoctorSoft 07-07-2011 01:42 AM
id chow down on the mother****er, i love eating people

Howard the Duck 07-07-2011 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1081545)
In some parts of Africa there are some tribes that eat their dead kin in order to honor them. It makes sense to me and it's something that I might have to do if I was a missionary in those parts. They only eat relatives and members of the community who have died of natural causes and they get rid of all their worldly possessions in their way of dealing with the death of a loved one. Some people may find that sickening, but I actually find it as a beautiful concept. The thought of having that person inside you forever is mind boggling.

So guys, if you were living with one of those tribes for a while would you take part of those rituals, or would you rather fall out of an airplane without a parachute? I think I might be able to get away with a little nibble, only to honor the tribe and be respectful.
cannibalism gives rise to a host of diseases

but yeah, i think i'll have a bite also just for the taste

djchameleon 07-07-2011 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1081545)
Some people may find that sickening, but I actually find it as a beautiful concept. The thought of having that person inside you forever is mind boggling.

So guys, if you were living with one of those tribes for a while would you take part of those rituals, or would you rather fall out of an airplane without a parachute? I think I might be able to get away with a little nibble, only to honor the tribe and be respectful.
the person wouldn't be inside you forever because you would digest them and crap them out.

I would only eat the heart and liver those are the most nutritious anything else no thanks.

Farfisa 07-07-2011 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1081740)
the person wouldn't be inside you forever because you would digest them and crap them out.

I would only eat the heart and liver those are the most nutritious anything else no thanks.
Nah, it's more of a spiritual thing, they believe that once you take in a piece of someone, they will remain with you till you die. I do know how how the digestive system works, I have taken several health classes. ;)

djchameleon 07-07-2011 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1081744)
Nah, it's more of a spiritual thing, they believe that once you take in a piece of someone, they will remain with you till you die. I do know how how the digestive system works, I have taken several health classes. ;)
I don't get the whole spiritual thing because if they are eating the body for spiritual reasons, they aren't eating the spirit, they are eating the body which are two separate entities. I don't get it.

The Batlord 07-07-2011 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1081474)
it is some sort of moral criteria - if they haven't reached a state of "sapiency", where I feel I'm in the wrong for killing them or at least encouraging them to be killed, I figger it's alright then...
But my question is, why is "sapiency" the deciding factor in whether or not an animal can be eaten? What is it about "sapiency" that should be preserved? Pigs are well known to be relatively intelligent. They have feelings and emotions. They can feel pain and suffer. They care for their young. I'm sure I could go on about how pigs are more than just unthinking machines that eat, sleep, and poop. Yet, we eat them almost without thinking.

So, for us to be okay with killing and eating them, all these things (many of which humans also show) must not be a deciding factor in whether or not we should eat them. I mean if killing and eating something that feels emotions isn't truly wrong, why should we have arrested Jeffrey Dahmer? What particular aspect of "sapiency" is wrong to destroy, when it is okay to disregard emotions, the ability to suffer, life in general, etc when deciding whether or not to eat something?

The Batlord 07-07-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1081740)
the person wouldn't be inside you forever because you would digest them and crap them out.

I would only eat the heart and liver those are the most nutritious anything else no thanks.
That's sick! Liver?! :eek:

Mykonos 07-07-2011 09:59 AM
Elephants are so intelligent that they ritualise their dead. And yet some humans are okay killing them just to rip out their tusks for ivory.

Paedantic Basterd 07-07-2011 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mykonos (Post 1081840)
Elephants are so intelligent that they ritualise their dead. And yet some humans are okay killing them just to rip out their tusks for ivory.
Crows have been observed gathering in the locations of deceased crows, much in the manner of funerals.

Howard the Duck 07-07-2011 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1081834)
But my question is, why is "sapiency" the deciding factor in whether or not an animal can be eaten? What is it about "sapiency" that should be preserved? Pigs are well known to be relatively intelligent. They have feelings and emotions. They can feel pain and suffer. They care for their young. I'm sure I could go on about how pigs are more than just unthinking machines that eat, sleep, and poop. Yet, we eat them almost without thinking.

So, for us to be okay with killing and eating them, all these things (many of which humans also show) must not be a deciding factor in whether or not we should eat them. I mean if killing and eating something that feels emotions isn't truly wrong, why should we have arrested Jeffrey Dahmer? What particular aspect of "sapiency" is wrong to destroy, when it is okay to disregard emotions, the ability to suffer, life in general, etc when deciding whether or not to eat something?
but are pigs really intelligent in the human sense?

or are we just anthropomorphising them based on observation?


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