A question to vegetarians
 

hi, would you eat an animal if they died from natural causes? -as opposed to being killed.

I'm no vegetarian, but I wouldn't eat an animal that died of natural causes. It probably wasn't healthy or too old. I also think the whole point of vegetarianism is not to eat meat, period.

No I wouldn't. Besides its useless to discuss, you couldn't create a viable industry that way.

Violence makes the flesh tender.

Vegetarians don't eat meat. So no.

It depends on why the vegetarian IS a vegetarian, guys. If they're a vegetarian because the consumption of flesh is morally wrong in their eyes, then no they wouldn't. If they choose to be vegetarians because of the mistreatment of animals up until death (which would mean they probably eat fish) then I don't see why they wouldn't eat a animal that died of natural causes.

I personally think people that are vegetarians for any other reasons than dietary ones are idiots.

Yeah well guess what? I think you're an inhumane shithead fucker.

Self-righteous Ethan is self-righteous.

Why are they idiots? What the ****, that's a really crappy generalisation to make. Some people strongly believe in animal rights, and rightly so. Some people just don't like the idea of eating flesh. Some people feel they are more healthy as a vegetarian. That doesn't make them idiots.

Eating an animal that died of natural causes would do good for the earth though... theoretically speaking.

I don't know who you are but you're nicer than me.

True. Because the meat industry also uses ****loads of water and CO2 emissions and all that stuff also.

Shit, man; that's not difficult to accomplish.

I'm nice ;_;

To people that share your convictions, yeah. Everyone else...not so much.

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DUNNO. On the topic of vegetarianism.. :D I've tried to be a vegetarian, but we don't have the right supplies for me to get proper nourishment, as I am an undiagnosed hypoglycemic. And my parents never actually get to it either. I tried to be a vegetarian because I think it is a healthier way to live. I think I could stick to it if I could eat fish, cos I like it better than meat anyway.

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I did. I wanted to leave behind that devastating period of my life here.

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They are idiots because they feel that an animal's life is worth something, when animals can't feel love or have hopes and dreams. Their only purpose is to reproduce and feed other animals. Why the hell does it matter if they go through pain before they die an early death or not?

EDIT: And about the health factor, that's what I said. Nothing's wrong with being a vegetarian for dietary reasons.

How do you know an animal doesn't have feelings? Christ have you ever even had a dog? They can clearly feel love and sadness and anger.

I can understand eating meat because it's the natural order, but keeping a chicken locked in a cage too small for it's entire life, where it will never see daylight, and pumping it with hormones until it's in so much pain, and then killing it is totally inhumane. Even if eating animals is what humans are 'supposed' to do, this is not. And sleepy jack is right, you don't know what animals can and can't feel. I've had many pets and I would never want to torture, kill, or eat any of them because they are all loving and loyal creatures with their own personalities and feelings. When I yell at my dog he gets all ashamed and hides. That just shows he has emotions.

I don't think it's stupid for people to be vegetarians for reasons other than being healthy. It's perfectly understandable and reasonable for someone to feel strongly about animal rights and think cruelty is wrong. I think animal cruelty is wrong, but I enjoy meat. Watching some videos made me reconsider eating meat, though..Again, lol.

I've had 5 dogs. All they ever wanted was treats and rubs on the belly. I don't doubt for a second that if I died and there was no one to feed it, a dog would have no qualms about eating MY corpse. Dogs are just fun to have around, they don't love you or anything.

EDIT: SR, he doesn't hide because he's ashamed, he's afraid. Fear is the only emotion animals can feel.

My dog does too love me! :)

Yeah both shiseido_red and I have had dogs and beg to differ and you're the one who clearly has an agenda here. So why don't you shut the fuck up before you make stupid generalizations and comments. Scientists have examined Animal's brains and they do react in certain ways to certain situations just like humans do and they can feel anxiety and they can feel affection; saying they can't is like saying gravity isn't real.

I don't have an agenda :\

Any signs of "affection" I've gotten from dogs have all been obvious ploys to get food. They lick my hand because they like the taste and they know I like it, they let me rub them because they like it and they know I like it, and don't **** inside because they know I like it.

Though I can see how it's easy to misinterpret these things as affection, since usually affection IS doing stuff that other people like. The difference is dogs (lolredundancy) HAVE AN AGENDA.

I think that we are all biased here. Sleepy_jack, I take that you are a vegetarian. That makes you biased. Khfreek, I take that you are not. ;) That makes you biased. I'm all for open opinions and discussion, but let's not make any accusations about opposing views, as it only causes trouble.

So far they understand fear and being rewarded, clearly emotionless. Care to contradict yourself some more?

Well it's not fair for animals to live an entire life of fear and have nothing more to it than that - fear and cruelty. They deserve a natural life.

But anyway I'm pretty sure my dog feels more than fear. He wags his tail and licks me when I come home, he gets excited when I tell him we are going for a walk, and he bites my brother because he doesn't like him... he's got much more of a range of emotions than just fear and nothing.

Well I'm not a vegetarian but I'm arguing against khfreak. So that makes me not biased.

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Dogs beg for food, that's what they do. But they also feel, as you proved..they know fear. And since they know fear, wouldn't it be cruel to abuse them and eat them? As well as other animals?

See, I know that it is cruel and such and I feel bad..But I still eat meat. I'm a huge hypocrite in that sense. :D

I eat meat but very rarely and only free range and organic stuff.

Calling someone stupid for running around saying Animals don't feel a simple range of emotions may be dickish but it doesn't make what he's saying anymore correct.

I love the taste of meat.

Thats why im not a vegetarian.

I'm totally cool with vegetarians as long as they don't try to guilt me.

Most of the animals people eat are dumb and not very cute anyway..

The comatose and the mentally handicapped aren't very cute or smart either, want to eat them too?

Would they taste like bacon?