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Old 04-16-2009, 12:19 PM   #481 (permalink)
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No I was just wondering how far to take the literal definition.
Well, certainly some women go to the extent of injecting pig fat into their lips because they think it will make them more beautiful. Some men are turned on by the sight of Leslie Ash pouting into a camera, others are disgusted. So sure it's a fetish. It's not a swear word or anything, just a description.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:20 PM   #482 (permalink)
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Concerning what's good or not, sexual pleasure has a lot to do with the psychology of the people involved. Fal, you say there's not much point in tongue-****ing .. But let's say that if you or someone else tongue ****s a girl while she's using a vibrator on her clit - if what you're doing turns her on bigtime, she might come from that even if she wouldn't orgasm on her own using only the vibrator.

Just saying acts can have a "turn on" factor that can give them value beyond mere physical stimuli point-scoring.

Of course, we know this. Just making a point.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:21 PM   #483 (permalink)
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Maybe the avatar, maybe because I'm arguing the definition of fetish for no real reason, I don't deny that smart-alec wouldn't be a phrase that would go to waste on me ...

Girth based stimulation only, from my perspective (though not having a vagina may bias that). I'd be very impressed to meet a person with a tongue long enough and strong enough to be able to really do much for the g-spot. And while tongue ****ing isn't especially, bad to really have much effect I've found you'd need to be there for a while (which starts to ache) and it's generally time better spent on the clit. If the girl likes it, sure but I wouldn't advocate it especially. Not least because all too often I've hard girlfriends that, after I've been down on them, complain that their previous blokes mostly ignore the clit during oral and think their tongue must be as good as any penis.

Believe me, making a fuss and complaining about cooties is not my scene. However, vaginal lubricant is an acid (primarily because it helps to sterilise the vagina and prevent bacterial infections) and you can go to any length to clean before hand (which will help, a lot, and definitely get rid of that fishy smell) but once turned on the bad taste will start to return. Obviously, as with the taste of semen, it's very much diet based but I'm yet to taste a horny girl that tasted like chocolate and vanilla (no pun).

Not that I complain about it during. Hell, I expect her to take the same from me. It's all about the give and take.

I am aware .

Kegel exercises replicate this also. They've had the contractions during but I'm an exceptionally distrusting person regarding sex and never believe them no matter the extent they've gone to fake it I think the only time I'll believe is when I encounter a squirter.

That sounds an awful lot like multi-tasking ... See, I tell you men just can't compete
Christ, Fal. How did I know your silence meant you were typing me a novel? :P

You're right, tongue-****ing is no good for the g-spot, but that's not why I like it. There ARE other sensitive areas aside from the clit. And yes, I know the clit is the most sensitve area and I also know what my juices chemically consist of. I guess some guys just need to acquire a taste for it, but I've been with a couple that enjoy the taste of pussy.

The contractions of an orgasm differ in the contractions of kegals in that an orgasm pulsates a little faster. Though it's a fairly simple and quick process, in order for me to clench my vaginal muscles, I have to think about it first, do it, and repeat. This takes much more time then with I'm explosively pulsating from a hard orgasm. With the squirting, I think all women are capable of doing it; however, the ways to trigger it varies from woman to woman. I, for one, can only do it with clitoral and penetrative stimulation. I can't stress much more on how beneficial toys can be in the bedroom. Let's just put it this way. Your tongue, nor your **** will be able to vibrate - EVER.

And clitoral stimulation and penetration are only two tasks. With all the knowledge you dropped on me about vaginas and oral sex, I did not realize you'd have problems with double-tasking.

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In that case, let's head out to the farm.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:23 PM   #485 (permalink)
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No I was just wondering how far to take the literal definition.
About fetish and definitions, even the dictionary sources were contradicting eachother so I guess it's a bit malleable depending on how you yourself wanna use the word.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:36 PM   #486 (permalink)
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Christ, Fal. How did I know your silence meant you were typing me a novel? :P
Well, I like to please :P

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There ARE other sensitive areas aside from the clit.
If somebody is more shy with women and we're talking about tips to do a good job muff diving to set a good impression, sucking and licking on and around the clit is a good simple way to start. You can worry about the other sensitive areas when you have the time and relationship where you can play around and find out what does it for them. The clit is a near definite yes, telling him to go off and do other things could end up in a resounding no. Each woman has different likes, etc, so it's tricky to pick something else that they'll like for sure.

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I guess some guys just need to acquire a taste for it, but I've been with a couple that enjoy the taste of pussy.
One of those things I guess. If I'm really horny I don't care and will do whatever whenever whereever. If I have my wits about me I tend to end up thinking "this isn't really all that cool". Like I say, I like going down on a woman. Doesn't mean I like the taste

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Your tongue, nor your **** will be able to vibrate - EVER.
That sounds to me more like a challenge than a fact ... :P

I'm certainly game for using toys in the bedroom. I did with my first girlfriend, I'd picked up a pocket rocket for her that we used to great effect. Since then I've taken the stance that if toys are to be used the woman has to buy them seeing as she'll be the one keeping them in the case of the split. With that exception I'm definitely an advocate. Holding a vibe against the clit while I make with the old in-out is something that my incompetent man brain can just about manage

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And clitoral stimulation and penetration are only two tasks. With all the knowledge you dropped on me about vaginas and oral sex, I did not realize you'd have problems with double-tasking.
What can I say. I'm only a man
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:39 PM   #487 (permalink)
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Oh and as for kegel versus orgasm, I've never really sat down and compared. I find that if I decide for myself I haven't made them come, it just helps raise the bar. I think it stems from ambition, pessimism and a general lack of faith in all women, anywhere, ever.
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So, I gotta head out after this one, but quickly about holding a vibrator while you're having sex:

I just got an amazing toy that involves no holding. It's called an ibuzz. I won't go into detail, but it basically pulsates/vibrates with your ipod/mp3 player. Sure, simple sex is always great, but a little extra never hurt.
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So, I gotta head out after this one, but quickly about holding a vibrator while you're having sex:

I just got an amazing toy that involves no holding. It's called an ibuzz. I won't go into detail, but it basically pulsates/vibrates with your ipod/mp3 player. Sure, simple sex is always great, but a little extra never hurt.
Wow..

Next year Wii unveils its brand new vibrator control. Sex game included. Works for both girls, and bois.
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Old 04-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #490 (permalink)
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Remember when they made a vibrator that was compatable with the PS2 version of Rez?

That's an amusing image. A girl playing PS2, while having a massive orgasm.

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