You are messing with some rank bitches if you need to get std testing before a kiss.

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Let me clarify the first part of my comment: you meet a girl, you talk her up & you immediately **** her & to top it off she swallows, she a slut.

I know it's ****ed up & I know that's me "probably" (but most likely not) reading way too much into it & it's probably the porn skewing my pov, but I find it slutty. I'm being honest you will never hear from me again.

I mean why are you swallowing someone's load if you're not in a relationship that to me scream desperate slut & desperate slut are crazy & I don't need the headache

Well then I can understand your point of view if you're talking about one night stands. But would it be the same for a guy who gives oral to a ONS? There is somewhat of a double standard here, I think.

So if a girl is in an exclusive relationship with the guy, the swallowing isn't slutty?

Are you studying psych or something or have you had simliar situations? Not like attacking but yeah, you're right about a lot of this. The volatility is a lot to handle for me at this time, but I feel like there is something that has to be done and I can't, for the life of me find a shrink that I feel comfortable with, truly dealing with my identity issues that doesnt make me feel like my fluid tendences are being polliced. So, I've basically made my own team of shrinks made up of queer friends who can be there to understand that I'm on the middle of a see saw, and because they love me and care about me they always make me feel like I can express my issues without the insecurities that used to plague me. So it was more a catalyst and the way I used to deal with trying to get to that part I knew existed in me because it's a constant, never ending cycle of self medication for the sake of being honest about who I really am. I have been conditioned to be very reclusive about my disease and it is not a healthy way to deal with iti and I know that. However when I really do imput the coping skills for the different episodes, without feeling that I need to hide the fact my brain does something I can't control, its not permanently fixable but if my other listens whenI tell them what I need and helps me when I ask instead of giving up, its all fine. I can't have that in romantic relationships anymore it seems because the things I ask for, which is always just to be there while I wait for the storm to pass, goes ignored when desperately needed. And it spirals and spirals until I decided that I did not deserve to be made to feel like I gave nothing when I spent so long pretending that I didnt hurt at times when I needed to trust and jsut let it out so it wouldnt manifest later as the black, black rage that really knows how to rip them open. It's control, and I couldn't just give that up to them. I'll always be a little bit violatile, angry, and that matters nothing unless I make choices that hurt others. So I'm just letting the old life pace itself out, slowly so I can finally say good bye to it.

You a slut too buddy in that scenario.


It's only good manners.

Exactly, he's acting like he's allowed to screw various girls without dating them yet if the girl is doing the same she's a slut.

I'm talking about ONS & any girl who swallows on the first **** it's slutty & screams desperate.

I never go down on ONS or for that matter girls I'm not in a serious r/ship w/ & like I said they need to be tested. I love sex but I love my life & my penis more & no std is worth cumming, not even the treatable ones.

It is a double standard, but given the fact that today men & women are lowering their standards & sleeping with anything that spreads for them, hooking up on fb & craigslist I understand that in order to remain safe my standards must remain high.

See the double standard here?

Yes, we are all slutty slutty whore bags for choosing personal autonomy. Yay! What is a slut?