Likes/Dislikes

TheCunningStunt · 07-04-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bannister

Darn, it's so fun to see them in the wild, too. If you're ever in a major US city, you're bound to see tons of our own special breed of hipster, in the flesh.

They posess the rare ability to simultaneously infuriate and entertain anyone who comes into contact with them.

We have "Indiefags" that wear cardigans and skinny jeans, and listen to obscure bands just for Indie's sake. But they aren't that annoying, they just like their obscure bands and dismiss bands if they get a significantly bigger fanbase..

These hipsters sound like the equivalent but a lot worse, although I have to admit a "hipster" band Wavves I find pretty damn enjoyable. They're only disliked because they have twats for fans.

I hope I meet a hipster. Got any pictures of what you consider to be a typical hipster? I'd like to know what to look for.

bannister · 07-04-2010, 01:04 AM

Look at This F*cking Hipster is a good place to start. Yup, there's a blog dedicated to it.

Other than that, I'd say look for non-prescription chunky black eyewear, thrift-store sweaters, and Pabst Blue Ribbon beer.

Freebase Dali · 07-04-2010, 01:05 AM

I don't even acknowledge the existence of stylistic sects any more. I don't know if it's the product of growing up or just ceasing to give a fuck, but I really think that all the so called Hipsters, Emos, Goths, etc. are really just the same fucking thing looking a little different from each other and listening to music that sounds different, and hating everyone who doesn't belong in their sheep pin.

When I was a teen, I did the same crap--albeit for different styles/music culture identification--so I can relate and I don't really blame people for it.... But from my perspective, these stylistically-minded people who listen to only what their style permits and their friends accept... they look and are acting fucking retarded.

I wish I had the brain I have, back when I was doing that stupid shit. I probably would have learned a lot more about music and culture than I did up until this point.

Now days, I hear about "Hipsters" and all these other trends, and I just see a bunch of people who are temporarily populating a passing phenomenon and nothing more. I couldn't give a fuck less. I don't hang out with them. They have no impact on my opinions or anything else involved in my life that I have actual control over.

Popular/influential style may as well be located in another fucking dimension for all I care.

Seltzer · 07-04-2010, 03:13 AM

I think I stopped caring about stylistic sects when I realised they were based on the more general concept that people constantly strive towards an ideal of themselves in life (basically a projection of who/what they could potentially be). And since teenagers are quite impressionable, cliquey and relatively free from commitments, their ideals tend to take on more aesthetic values influenced by other people. Stylistic sects are the teenage form of ideals.

I've come to think that the extent to which a person strives towards these ideals is more telling about the person than the ideals themselves; i.e. superficially, a bling adorned rap fanatic turning into a leather and spikes metalhead is a drastic change/evolution. However, underneath, the zebra stripes probably are still the same - different ideals, same attitude/commitment towards the ideals. Ask most people what they think of their past selves and there's a good chance they'll be critical with a response like "I was an idiot back then"... and quite often the reason is that their ideals have changed drastically since then. Less often, the reason is that they realise they've been pigeonholing themselves by even attaching themselves so diligently to these ideals in the first place.

Sorry if I'm babbling... I've been awake for far too long

thomasracer56 · 07-13-2010, 10:05 AM

ahh... these groups. i'm a teen and still i ridicule this hot, popular ****.

CanwllCorfe · 07-13-2010, 10:16 AM

I never really fit into any group. They all kind of bothered me. It was like they weren't really them anymore they were just doing whatever they could to fit in their niche. Sad cases

homesick.alien · 07-14-2010, 05:30 AM

Out of the bands you listed, I probably like Arctic Monkeys the best though

I dislike hipsters/indie music elitists in general, how they think they're something special just because they listen to 'unaccessible' music, and think 'independently'. And their stupid nerd glasses.

I like air quotes

TheCunningStunt · 07-14-2010, 08:43 AM

I love 'Indie' music for what it is these days, a genre. People that shun bands because of how big they are do my fucking head in. I prefer bands that are accessible, bands that don't have a Wiki page are a pain in the fucking arse.

I don't get how Indiefags or "hispters" actually enjoy listening to music that's harder to get hold of. A Wiki page makes life so much easier.

Indiefags are the British version of hipsters I think, Indiefags aren't as annoying as Hipsters. Hipsters seem to listen to a lot of obscure noise pop and surfer stuff. Indiefags just listen to really bland Indie bands that sound like The Kooks without the radio airplay or record deal. I actually like a bit of Hipster type music, like Wavves for example. But because of their fan base, and how hyped they are they are hated for it. I think these hipster folk do listen to some good music, but because they take pride in how obscure it is, they won't get credit for it. Because they're arseholes.

downwardspiral · 07-14-2010, 08:47 AM

I have one or two indie*** friends. I swear they avoid the charts like the plague. I genuinely don't understand how they can live their life like that (bit dramatic maybe, probably not) but I love the fact that you could shuffle my iTunes and could hear Sugababes, Mogwai, Godspeed! The Strokes and Kelly Clarkson.

I think it's just insane when people restrict themselves with music, especially in case their status is damaged by listening to some bands with actual commercial recognition.

So I guess you could say that I dislike people trying too hard to conform to a certain scene, it's more effort than it's even worth. Get over yourself.

**Janszoon** · 07-14-2010, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downwardspiral

I have one or two indie*** friends. I swear they avoid the charts like the plague. I genuinely don't understand how they can live their life like that (bit dramatic maybe, probably not) but I love the fact that you could shuffle my iTunes and could hear Sugababes, Mogwai, Godspeed! The Strokes and Kelly Clarkson.

I think it's just insane when people restrict themselves with music, especially in case their status is damaged by listening to some bands with actual commercial recognition.

So I guess you could say that I dislike people trying too hard to conform to a certain scene, it's more effort than it's even worth. Get over yourself.

The great thing is when you reach your 30s, if you're not a person who listens to the radio or has cable, you have absolutely no clue what music is popular and what isn't. As result you just listen to music that you enjoy, oblivious and uncaring about how popular it is or isn't. This is the point I'm at in life. Sometimes when I post on here I'm astonished at how popular a band I like is, sometimes I'm astonished at how unknown they are.

07-04-2010, 01:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
bannister Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 127	Look at This F*cking Hipster is a good place to start. Yup, there's a blog dedicated to it. Other than that, I'd say look for non-prescription chunky black eyewear, thrift-store sweaters, and Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. __________________ You're not punk, and I'm telling everyone. ____ last.fm ____ "Give a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. But, set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." - Terry Pratchett

07-04-2010, 03:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,914	I think I stopped caring about stylistic sects when I realised they were based on the more general concept that people constantly strive towards an ideal of themselves in life (basically a projection of who/what they could potentially be). And since teenagers are quite impressionable, cliquey and relatively free from commitments, their ideals tend to take on more aesthetic values influenced by other people. Stylistic sects are the teenage form of ideals. I've come to think that the extent to which a person strives towards these ideals is more telling about the person than the ideals themselves; i.e. superficially, a bling adorned rap fanatic turning into a leather and spikes metalhead is a drastic change/evolution. However, underneath, the zebra stripes probably are still the same - different ideals, same attitude/commitment towards the ideals. Ask most people what they think of their past selves and there's a good chance they'll be critical with a response like "I was an idiot back then"... and quite often the reason is that their ideals have changed drastically since then. Less often, the reason is that they realise they've been pigeonholing themselves by even attaching themselves so diligently to these ideals in the first place. Sorry if I'm babbling... I've been awake for far too long __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

07-13-2010, 10:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	I never really fit into any group. They all kind of bothered me. It was like they weren't really them anymore they were just doing whatever they could to fit in their niche. Sad cases __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

07-14-2010, 05:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
homesick.alien awkward moose Join Date: May 2010 Location: I ride kangaroos to school Posts: 133	Out of the bands you listed, I probably like Arctic Monkeys the best though I dislike hipsters/indie music elitists in general, how they think they're something special just because they listen to 'unaccessible' music, and think 'independently'. And their stupid nerd glasses. I like air quotes __________________ ..Colourless green ideas sleep furiously.. "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names"- J.F. Kennedy

07-14-2010, 08:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	I love 'Indie' music for what it is these days, a genre. People that shun bands because of how big they are do my fucking head in. I prefer bands that are accessible, bands that don't have a Wiki page are a pain in the fucking arse. I don't get how Indiefags or "hispters" actually enjoy listening to music that's harder to get hold of. A Wiki page makes life so much easier. Indiefags are the British version of hipsters I think, Indiefags aren't as annoying as Hipsters. Hipsters seem to listen to a lot of obscure noise pop and surfer stuff. Indiefags just listen to really bland Indie bands that sound like The Kooks without the radio airplay or record deal. I actually like a bit of Hipster type music, like Wavves for example. But because of their fan base, and how hyped they are they are hated for it. I think these hipster folk do listen to some good music, but because they take pride in how obscure it is, they won't get credit for it. Because they're arseholes. __________________ I don't feel and I feel great. Last FM

07-04-2010, 01:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I don't even acknowledge the existence of stylistic sects any more. I don't know if it's the product of growing up or just ceasing to give a fuck, but I really think that all the so called Hipsters, Emos, Goths, etc. are really just the same fucking thing looking a little different from each other and listening to music that sounds different, and hating everyone who doesn't belong in their sheep pin. When I was a teen, I did the same crap--albeit for different styles/music culture identification--so I can relate and I don't really blame people for it.... But from my perspective, these stylistically-minded people who listen to only what their style permits and their friends accept... they look and are acting fucking retarded. I wish I had the brain I have, back when I was doing that stupid shit. I probably would have learned a lot more about music and culture than I did up until this point. Now days, I hear about "Hipsters" and all these other trends, and I just see a bunch of people who are temporarily populating a passing phenomenon and nothing more. I couldn't give a fuck less. I don't hang out with them. They have no impact on my opinions or anything else involved in my life that I have actual control over. Popular/influential style may as well be located in another fucking dimension for all I care.

07-13-2010, 10:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
thomasracer56 Still Crazy Nutso! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 148	ahh... these groups. i'm a teen and still i ridicule this hot, popular ****.

07-14-2010, 08:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
downwardspiral Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 734	I have one or two indie*** friends. I swear they avoid the charts like the plague. I genuinely don't understand how they can live their life like that (bit dramatic maybe, probably not) but I love the fact that you could shuffle my iTunes and could hear Sugababes, Mogwai, Godspeed! The Strokes and Kelly Clarkson. I think it's just insane when people restrict themselves with music, especially in case their status is damaged by listening to some bands with actual commercial recognition. So I guess you could say that I dislike people trying too hard to conform to a certain scene, it's more effort than it's even worth. Get over yourself. __________________

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