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The Reaper 05-08-2010 10:40 PM

Another nazi community.

Great.

Please, just delete my account. I can't take uptight puss1es.

Freebase Dali 05-08-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 864596)
Another nazi community.

Great.

Please, just delete my account. I can't take uptight puss1es.

Although I appreciate the fact that you make this unquestionably easy, I think you should know that if we let everyone storm around this forum pissing everyone off and trolling every thread, we'd be an internet trash bin. We're not because we don't.
You obviously don't understand that, so have a week to think about it and after that period, if you come to some strange realization that you joined a music forum to talk about music and not insult other people on the internet because you've run out of chatrooms, then please... by all means... come back.

thomasracer56 05-08-2010 11:10 PM

meat would not be murder. it is part of a balance the human body has made to ensure the peak of growth and health. if you don't eat produce, you sacrifice health for physique, and vice versa with vegetarians. if one is too biased with the choice, then the choice will be unstable. to survive and live long like this would take a miracle. balance was created for a reason.

VEGANGELICA 05-08-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thomasracer56 (Post 864602)
meat would not be murder. it is part of a balance the human body has made to ensure the peak of growth and health. if you don't eat produce, you sacrifice health for physique, and vice versa with vegetarians. if one is too biased with the choice, then the choice will be unstable. to survive and live long like this would take a miracle. balance was created for a reason.

"A miracle!" :) And yet, thomasracer, I live and am healthy, with better cholesterol levels than when I ate meat! I was also vegan when I gave birth to a healthy child, who is vegetarian and healthy.

More importantly, studies show that a vegetarian diet is healthful and in some ways offers benefits over animal-based diets since vegetarian diets usually include less saturated fat, less cholesterol, fewer carcinogens, and more cancer-fighting compounds. Also, vegetarians and meat-eaters have equal lifespans, although vegetarians generally suffer from fewer chronic diseases (such as heart disease and Type II diabetes).

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It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.http://www.eatright.org/About/Content.aspx?id=8357
So I wonder about the source of your information or idea that being vegetarian sacrifices health. Is this something you learned in school, because I've heard from students that sometimes teachers, lacking accurate information about vegetarianism, teach children that vegetarianism is unhealthful.

Arya Stark 05-08-2010 11:50 PM

I was being told the other day that vegetarianism is really unhealthy and such.
I thought it was kind of annoying, considering a lot of things are unhealthy.
Eating mozzarella sticks and fries is unhealthy, and ALSO vegetarian.
I don't think people should try to impose their views on me.
Aside from the fact that it's annoying, I'm one of the few people who try not to tell people I'm a vegetarian for fear of coming off as pompous or imposing.
People have asked me before if I mind them eating meat near me, or people have changed meals just so I can eat.
I've also been asked questions about vegetarianism while I was eating with someone who ate meat, and I find that very awkward.
I'm not going to explain all of the reasons animal-cruelty is disgusting while you're eating meat, I think that's rude and obnoxious.

I don't remember where I was going with this, but it's two in the morning.
I'll finish my rant tomorrow.

Laurent Quinn Proper 05-09-2010 10:30 AM

My million dollar response: Of course it is murder but it is essential and delicious. So **** off trying to guilt me into believing I am inhumane, you bastards.

Sansa Stark 05-09-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 864605)
I was being told the other day that vegetarianism is really unhealthy and such.
I thought it was kind of annoying, considering a lot of things are unhealthy.
Eating mozzarella sticks and fries is unhealthy, and ALSO vegetarian.
I don't think people should try to impose their views on me.
Aside from the fact that it's annoying, I'm one of the few people who try not to tell people I'm a vegetarian for fear of coming off as pompous or imposing.
People have asked me before if I mind them eating meat near me, or people have changed meals just so I can eat.
I've also been asked questions about vegetarianism while I was eating with someone who ate meat, and I find that very awkward.
I'm not going to explain all of the reasons animal-cruelty is disgusting while you're eating meat, I think that's rude and obnoxious.

Agree on all of this

A lot of times, with friends we'll be getting food and they'll ask me if I want to have some of theirs and I have to tell them that I can't, because I don't eat meat. They all gasp and say "SINCE WHEN!!!" and it's funny because I've been a vegetarian for donkey's years, but it doesn't come up. Vegetarianism is hardly unhealthy as long as you get all your vitamins and all that and don't overload on fatty things just because they dont have meat

Arya Stark 05-09-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 864708)
Agree on all of this

A lot of times, with friends we'll be getting food and they'll ask me if I want to have some of theirs and I have to tell them that I can't, because I don't eat meat. They all gasp and say "SINCE WHEN!!!" and it's funny because I've been a vegetarian for donkey's years, but it doesn't come up. Vegetarianism is hardly unhealthy as long as you get all your vitamins and all that and don't overload on fatty things just because they dont have meat

Exactly.
I don't take vitamins, though.
I'm going to take one now. [=

VEGANGELICA 05-09-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurent Quinn Proper (Post 864704)
My million dollar response: Of course it is murder but it is essential and delicious. So **** off trying to guilt me into believing I am inhumane, you bastards.

Why is meat essential?

FETCHER. 05-09-2010 05:00 PM

Why are vegetables essential? both can be cut from the diet without dramatic effects.


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