The Bald Chick Thread

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

I agree. There's nothing wrong with Sharon's ears. What I like about her look is that she has a clean and simple beauty. Not a lot of makeup or jewellery, just an extremely pretty face. And a smooth bald head, although looking at her portfolio, she doesn't look bad with a day or two of stubble either.

New post up on the blog today, although I think boo boo does check regularly.

Yeah I love her ears, I think they're cute.

But I can imagine someone picking on her for how they stick out. From my observation ears seem to be one of the things a woman is most self conscious about when shaving her head. "My ears will stick out" is the classic excuse for backing out.

The head shape, the neck and the ears are parts of a woman you rarely see without being obscured by hair, and I'm more interested in seeing these parts of a woman than seeing her hair. Because unlike hair, these are indisposable parts of who she is.

For ages and for whatever reason we make these parts of a woman out to be the most undesirable, but I think they are just as beautiful and distinctively feminine as any other part of the exterior female anatomy.

And that's what seperates acomos from "normal" men I guess. But as with how most people feel about their eccentricities, I feel like I'm the normal one and everyone else is weird.

Originally Posted by baldy1138

Great cartoon.

I do agree that there are a lot of trolls just posting crap comments on YouTube, and the racist ones particularly bother me. An audience, and sometimes the security that they hold a majority opinion, does indeed encourage people to show off, and the anonymity does weaken our normal inhibitions. In some ways, I'd even say there's a mob mentality at work in some of these posts.

Exactly, it's just like high school, only some of these people are supposed to be adults.

Some of it is clearly meant to hurt or to stir up trouble. But I do think the people who post some of the most frustrating comments are those who really do think they're making a fair comment. They might be reacting out of fear of something that challenges what they consider normal, or they might genuinely think they're being helpful by offering their criticism, or since the shaving is all in fun and these people can't possibly like it, that teasing is OK. The worst are the ones who sincerely think they're being nice with the "you were so pretty before, why would you do that?" comments. My mother is an old pro at that.

Yeah I get what you mean. I think it bothers me less when these hurtful comments are being made by men (because I've come to expect it) and more when they're being made by other women. Some women are quite vain and can be even more vicious critics of one's appearance because of how competitive they can get.

Self righteousness is even worse. I hate when people make comments like.

"If you're gonna shave your head, do it for charity, otherwise don't do it, it's a waste of hair".

This is f*cking bullsh*t.

It's her f*cking hair not yours, she can do with it whatever the hell she wants. Guys shave their heads all the time and nobody says stupid crap like this but when a women does it she has to have a reason. What? Doing it because she wants to? That's not a f*cking reason apparrently.

No apparrently women's hair is some great energy source that can't be wasted otherwise we could be facing some kind of crisis. Speaking of which there are so many damn charities we can contribute to, why is the one everyone cares so much about the one where we give wigs to bald women? Even those without a life threatening condition?

F*CK Darfur, we have to promote the idea that hair is the most important thing in a woman's life.

Here's another good one.

"There are woman dying of cancer who are emotionally crushed by the loss of their hair, how disrespectful it is that women want to make themselves look like this when they have beautiful hair that some women would die for. It's an insult to them."

Even more bullsh*t. Someone explain to me, HOW is it insulting for women to choose this look?

If more women did it more people would have to accept it and that's empowerment. Women don't fall over backwards for hair because it's something they really need, it's something they need to not be called a freak.

This is why it's so devastating for women who lose their hair because they feel like that hair is a key element to making them attractive and without it they are ugly. When women shave their hair it's not out of disrespect, it's promoting the idea that women have the right to be bald.

Things that are considered ugly are usually things that just aren't the norm. What's considered a beautiful woman in our culture could be considered butt ugly by another. For some tribes in central africa, headshaving is the norm for women and they probably wonder what the big fuss is about hair in other cultures.

I understand the history of hair in culture and it's appeal. Headshaving is long associated with being under a system of control because of how it is common among soldiers, prisoners, slaves and religious converts and how it's used as a form of punishment. And thus long hair symbolized freedom.

But that kind of symbolism is very outdated, at least for women, especially in a society where hair is a multibillion dollar industry and the average woman spends thousands of dollars on hair care per year, tallying up to around $50,000 in her lifetime.

People today have gotten the idea that being entitled to your opinion means you're never wrong, and that there aren't times when maybe it's better to just be nice or even shut up altogether. The internet definitely makes that tendency far worse, with the anonymity and the audience, and with opportunities everywhere to comment on everything. People are invited to comment, they think their opinion always matters, and they really don't think too much about it. They're used to going around giving their opinion on everything. If you challenged some of these people directly, they wouldn't have any idea why you should be upset, and might very well consider you the bad guy and tell you to leave them alone. I've taken on people like this before, and I was the one causing trouble and trying to stifle free speech, even among some of the people who had been posting positive things.

Yeah that's why I don't bother most of the time but sometimes I will chip in my opinion which is pointless, nobody EVER comments on YouTube to have an actual serious discussion about something it's just trading insults most of the time.

People have this stupid idea that because it's the internet, you shouldn't take offense to what anyone says, ever. Like someone can say "Hitler is my hero, lets kill all the jews and ******s" without any hint of irony or sarcasm and if I take offense to that I will probably be told "relax guy chillax it's just the internet dude".

But what kind of excuse is that? If somebody said that in real life and in a public place, they would rightfully get the sh*t kicked out of them. Why should the internet be any different? If someone says that on a forum, it's still a public place in it's own way. If what people say in real life can be hurtful, then why would these kind of comments never be hurtful if it's on the internet? Just because you can't tell weither or not it's a joke?

If you're constantly saying things that offend me and are an insult to my values then I'm sorry (or rather I'm not sorry) for not finding it the least bit funny.

Some are are more rude than others, but I think most of those comments reflect ignorance in their content, and I think most are posted out of ignorance. They just don't get it.

And sadly any attempts at educating these people will be in vain.

[baldy1138]

Originally Posted by boo boo

"There are woman dying of cancer who are emotionally crushed by the loss of their hair, how disrespectful it is that women want to make themselves look like this when they have beautiful hair that some women would die for. It's an insult to them."

And there are kids starving in Africa who would be delighted with the tuna casserole you refuse to eat. That's a strange bit of reasoning when it applies to food. I have no idea how it's supposed to apply to hair.

Seems to me that women are crushed by the loss of their hair because they've been taught to put a ridiculous degree of importance on it, and because bald women aren't something you typically see. If more women opted to be bald by choice, it should logically make these women feel less self-conscious about their own appearance.

Not sure if that applies to people shaving their heads in support of someone who's lost her hair. The focus on the hair loss and the "we're all in this together" attitude might actually be kind of irritating. But women shaving their heads for their own reasons would only serve to make baldness a more accepted look for a woman. What could be more respectful than that?

I can still remember about ten years ago or so, I attended an event where there was an old guy with alopecia universalis. He could tell that I shaved my head, and he made a point of talking to me. He was interested in my choosing baldness, and actually quite happy that it was becoming a common hairstyle. He wasn't bitching about guys who don't know what they've got throwing it away in a travesty of his affliction. He thought it was cool. Sure, this was a man, but I think it could have been the reaction of anyone in that situation.

Suggesting that so many women would "die for hair like that" and moaning about such a tragic waste... I just can't get over how lame and pathetic that is.

Actually, thinking about talking to that guy, I remembered how much fun it is to run into other people who are bald for one reason or another - by choice, naturally, or for some reason. There's a definite feeling of kinship on some level. I once met a Tibetan Lama, who was visiting the area where I lived. When we were introduced, he took immediate note of my shaved head, and we had a little discussion about doing it for style vs. doing it for religion, maintenance techniques, and his rather amusing lament that with local health regulations, he couldn't get a proper head shave anywhere. Had to settle for clippers, poor guy. Even funnier, this monk in his flowing robes, shaved head and totally serene demeanor wanted to have his picture taken with me.

[boo boo]

That's pretty cool.

My hair is so long that it almost goes down to my elbows. I'm quite fond of my hair but I don't spend much money or time on it, I don't care that it looks messy.

I admit to have somewhat of an attachment to it so I definitely understand where women come from. I'm gonna be totally bummed if or when I start losing my hair. If I do I will start shaving it. I don't really understand why so many men just let the male pattern baldness show (other than not caring too much about how they look) because it's certainly more unsightly than just shaving it off and it makes you look older. And comb overs are just gross.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by boo boo

I disagree, I think a lot of people have the desire to be as hurtful as humanly possible and the YouTube community is made up primarily of trolls. Sexism and racism is very common too.

When people make comments like "you're ugly now" and "you look like a dude" I think they are fully aware that these statements are hurtful to the person in the video.

Maybe some of these people are just really stupid and inconsiderate but that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I think a big reason so many people on the net are douchebags is because they keep a lot of their anti social sentiments pint up because of how society sees them. On the internet you have anonymity and when you have anonymity you can be as big of a jerk as you want to be. Maybe you've seen this.



And this pretty much sums up the internet better than any other picture that google images can provide.

I don't think the people start out as normal.
I think their burning for somewhere to troll, and they pick the places that are most anonymous.
And of course people know what they say is hurtful, why else would they say it?

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by AwwSugar

I don't think the people start out as normal.
I think their burning for somewhere to troll, and they pick the places that are most anonymous.

As I said on another thread we all have a little attention whore in us. But some people don't want to be liked and they thrive on causing misery and being hated. I admit that there's a forum where I troll, but mostly because I dislike everyone there on a personal level.

Genuine trolls, as in people who are never NOT a douchebag, these are people with a serious problem.

And of course people know what they say is hurtful, why else would they say it?

Because they're stupid?

[boo boo]

To Baldy1138:

Just read your new blog entry and it's very good.

There is defnitely a popular belief, even among bald women, that acomophiles are total creeps who should be avoided at all costs.

And there needs to be a distinction made between acomos who simply believe that baldness is an amplification of a woman's beauty and acomos who will fap it to anything with a bald scalp.

Or acomos who are into the forced headshaves and don't even consider baldness to be beautiful but because they are turned on by humilation, submission and punishment.

Also, an acomo for 20 years? Damn. It's only been 5 years for me, I'm only open about it on the internet, in real life I'm still very much in the closet about it and there's no reason to tell people about unless they ask. The only person who knows about it is my grandma and that's through sheer accident when she stumbled onto some of my baldy porn.

She still teases me about that sometimes.

But yeah, it's a crippling fear for me. If I were to actually meet a bald girl I probably wouldn't want to tell her about it but it would freak her out more if she found out about it and knew that I was trying to hide it which makes it seem more suspicious, if I were to just tell her I feel like I'd creep her out just the same and make her feel like I'm only interested in her baldness.

If I'm in a room full of equally attractive women and only one of them was bald then yes, she would be the one I would want to persue. But is that really different from how most guys persue the opposite sex? Persuing those whose appearance best fit their tastes? It's human nature.

It's a shame bald women can't appreciate those who actually appreciate their beauty for what it is, just because of the negative stereotypes surrounding acomos.

And I think you have a point, your distinction between fetishes and paraphilia makes good sense. Fetishes are defined as objectifcation, so all those times I've said I had a bald fetish I really was misusing the term. Then again I never say I have a bald fetish, I always say I have a bald woman fetish. But to classify women as objects would be wrong I guess.

A bald fetish is being attracted to baldness purely as an object, as in the woman doesn't actually matter. Acomophilia however can be used to describe those who are not attracted to baldness on it's own, but to how it amplifies the beauty of an already attractive woman.

That is how it is for me and while people joking about how I get turned on by every bald person I see is good for a laugh, that's not what I'm like.

[baldy1138]

Your grandma stumbled onto your baldy porn? I really need to hear that whole story. How did it happen, what did she find, what did she say to you, and how did you explain it? I really must know.

And yeah, over 20 years an acomo and wouldn't have it any other way. Probably closer to 25 years. The fascination goes back probably to 1979 and Persis, but I can first recall actually being turned on by images of bald women around 1983. I was about the age when boys usually discover cool new things they can do when they're all alone.

It is, of course, not an all-consuming obsession, and it certainly is not the only thing that does it for me, which is, I think, what differentiates what you and I call acomophilia from a true paraphilia. True paraphilia could be considered sexual dysfunction, being unable to perform without the aid of your personal kink, whatever it might be. I grew up having the hots for all the same movie and TV stars as everybody else, getting all nervous around the same cute girls at school as everybody else, and hiding the same magazines under my mattress as everybody else. I just had something extra. And although it drove me wild when my wife shaved her head, it was never necessary to us enjoying ourselves before or since.

And it does go the other way. I've seen lots of bald women who were not attractive to me at all, and some who were attractive that I wouldn't have liked for reasons entirely unrelated to their appearance. Sinead O'Connor of the 80s/90s is the example I usually cite. Good looking, bald or closely buzzed, and some of her songs aren't bad, but she was never someone I thought I would have liked at all, so I never took much of an interest in her. Baldness is a turn-on, but it doesn't override everything else.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

Your grandma stumbled onto your baldy porn? I really need to hear that whole story. How did it happen, what did she find, what did she say to you, and how did you explain it? I really must know.

Sigh.... How can I do this? Well lets see.

Grandma used to use my computer to play solitaire. And I guess I accidently left one of my files open. They were pictures of a nude bald woman with large breasts.

I didn't know about this until she mentioned it to me once and how I liked "big boobed bald women". It came as a sudden shock to me and I was very embarassed about it. But she just thought it was amusing, she didn't seem concerned about it in anyway. She simply told me "so you're different, so what? At least they're women".

In other words she seemed more relieved that I wasn't gay than anything. Hehe.

I told her to keep it a secret. But it slipped out once while she was having a conversation with one of my uncles which he described as "pretty messed up" but in a jovial way so I wasn't offended by that remark. I have no idea how many other people she's told about this.

And yeah, over 20 years an acomo and wouldn't have it any other way. Probably closer to 25 years. The fascination goes back probably to 1979 and Persis, but I can first recall actually being turned on by images of bald women around 1983. I was about the age when boys usually discover cool new things they can do when they're all alone.

I am 24 years old now, and I was around 18/19 when this became a sudden interest for me, and around 11/12 when I was first aroused by it, maybe younger than that.

It is, of course, not an all-consuming obsession, and it certainly is not the only thing that does it for me, which is, I think, what differentiates what you and I call acomophilia from a true paraphilia. True paraphilia could be considered sexual dysfunction, being unable to perform without the aid of your personal kink, whatever it might be. I grew up having the hots for all the same movie and TV stars as everybody else, getting all nervous around the same cute girls at school as everybody else, and hiding the same magazines under my mattress as everybody else. I just had something extra. And although it drove me wild when my wife shaved her head, it was never necessary to us enjoying ourselves before or since.

Yeah I don't need it to turn me on but I think of it as an amplifier for my sexual drive, I still can be and often am turned on by attractive women with long hair. But when attractive women shave their heads it kicks things up a notch.

And it does go the other way. I've seen lots of bald women who were not attractive to me at all, and some who were attractive that I wouldn't have liked for reasons entirely unrelated to their appearance. Sinead O'Connor of the 80s/90s is the example I usually cite. Good looking, bald or closely buzzed, and some of her songs aren't bad, but she was never someone I thought I would have liked at all, so I never took much of an interest in her. Baldness is a turn-on, but it doesn't override everything else.

Yeah. An ugly woman is gonna be ugly bald, even uglier as it calls more attention to her unsightly features.

I think Sinead is average looking for the most part. She's pretty (at least in her youth) but in a mild and subtle way, she's not one of the bald women I go crazy about. I don't really know what to think of her personally because she's always contradicting herself. Saying she's gay and then saying that she's not, pissing on the catholic church and then becoming a priest, wtf.

[baldy1138]

She simply told me "so you're different, so what? At least they're women".

Sounds like a nice lady, your grandma. Nothing wrong with being different.

Actually, the "at least they're women" comment is not far from something I've said before. I like women. My idea of a pretty face or a beautiful body or flattering clothes is mostly conventional, although I'll always choose an interesting face over one that is perfect to the point of being forgettable. I like what a lot of other guys like in virtually every way but one - I like it when they don't have hair. All things considered, how strange is it really?

Kind of amazing that I've been into bald women longer than you've been on this earth. I guess I'm now one of the veterans. When I first started connecting with people online in the alt.sex.fetish.hair days, it was kind of eye-opening. I'd been pursuing my interest for a few years, and suddenly ran into guys who'd been collecting material since at least the 60s, and folks who had connected with each other in the Razor's Edge days of the late 70s.

I learned a lot. There were movies and fashion models and artists I'd never heard of who were well known among these people. Probably the best thing I learned was that people just like me had been doing exactly what I was doing for a long time. It was like becoming part of a movement.

There used to be a lot more of the kind of discussion we're having right here, and more of a sense of community, but that got lost somewhere along the line, when it all became about selling photo sets and videos. Hadn't really thought about how much I missed it until I got talking to you.

I still do see some of the names around, in places like YouTube. If you ever run across Captain Stanley, he's a nice guy. He was one of the people behind The Razor's Edge magazine, and a later publication, the Yankee Clipper. And Zvi, at haircut.net is somebody with a viewpoint you'd probably appreciate. He also seems to have incorporated acomophilia into a happy marriage about as successfully as anyone I've seen.

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

Sounds like a nice lady, your grandma. Nothing wrong with being different.

Actually, the "at least they're women" comment is not far from something I've said before. I like women. My idea of a pretty face or a beautiful body or flattering clothes is mostly conventional, although I'll always choose an interesting face over one that is perfect to the point of being forgettable. I like what a lot of other guys like in virtually every way but one - I like it when they don't have hair. All things considered, how strange is it really?

Kind of amazing that I've been into bald women longer than you've been on this earth. I guess I'm now one of the veterans. When I first started connecting with people online in the alt.sex.fetish.hair days, it was kind of eye-opening. I'd been pursuing my interest for a few years, and suddenly ran into guys who'd been collecting material since at least the 60s, and folks who had connected with each other in the Razor's Edge days of the late 70s.

I learned a lot. There were movies and fashion models and artists I'd never heard of who were well known among these people. Probably the best thing I learned was that people just like me had been doing exactly what I was doing for a long time. It was like becoming part of a movement.

There used to be a lot more of the kind of discussion we're having right here, and more of a sense of community, but that got lost somewhere along the line, when it all became about selling photo sets and videos. Hadn't really thought about how much I missed it until I got talking to you.

I still do see some of the names around, in places like YouTube. If you ever run across Captain Stanley, he's a nice guy. He was one of the people behind The Razor's Edge magazine, and a later publication, the Yankee Clipper.

Whilst your posts are well informed and well intentioned, it's still spam. You have not contributed elsewhere on the forum and post only regarding this subject. I am bald myself but no solidarity here, It's been a couple of weeks between posts so I have been more than generous.