Favorite Cigarette Brand?

VEGANGELICA · 09-01-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

This is less likely especially in America nowadays, flavored cigarettes (besides menthol if that counts) are illegal, specifically to stop kids from smoking early because those cigarettes taste like candy. Cigarettes don't exactly taste good, unless they're clove or flavored, so bully that.

Oh, I meant actual *candy* cigarettes (like the bubblegum ones shown), not cigarettes that have added flavoring. I didn't know real cigarettes with added flavoring even existed!

I looked up the laws about candy cigarettes and found that the U.S. still allows them. In Canada, the candy cigarette industry faces a little more legal control: the packaging on candy cigarettes can't be made to resemble real cigarette branding.

Meanwhile, selling candy cigarettes has been downright banned in several countries: Finland, Norway, the Republic of Ireland, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. I guess Tore isn't getting high off sugar cigarettes during his MusicBanter hiatus, unless he is part of some underground candy cigarette smuggling ring in Europe!

I found out that the U.S. Family Smoking and Prevention Control Act bans any form of added flavoring in tobacco cigarettes other than menthol--so that must be the law you're referring to, Paloma. My gosh, those people at cigarettes companies who added kid-enticing flavoring to cancer sticks are almost diabolical! I wish I were religious, then I could call them diabolical.

I "smoked" bubblegum cigarettes when I was a kid. I thought they were cool.

They weren't very good bubblegum though.

My memory of bubblegum cigarettes is that they were very hard and difficult to chew, with little taste. Maybe I had the wrong brand of candy cigarette. Maybe another candy cigarette brand would have been more flavorful.

Freebase Dali · 09-01-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Third-hand smoke definitely exists...it is the stink you smell on the skin, hair, and clothes of people who smoke, and in the rooms they smoked in due to contamination of sofas, carpet, walls, etc.

The main health concern is for infants, who breathe in more dust and residues in homes since they are closer to the floor, and so are more likely than adults to be affected by third-hand smoke. Also, infants are more susceptible than adults to respiratory troubles and developmental harm caused by carcinogens and other chemicals. What is third-hand smoke? Is it hazardous?: Scientific American

The danger of a carcinogen is a function of the carcinogen's strength, exposure time, and the developmental stage of the person. I doubt most infants are given a lot of coffee, chocolate, pepper, and peanut butter, so the negative impact of third-hand smoke on infants whose parents smoke could be much greater compared to the impact of carcinogens in those foods.

On what basis do you assume that the harm of third-hand smoke is inconsequential compared to the harm of other carcinogens you list? And does the fact that an infant could be murdered mean we shouldn't care about environmental pollutants she is exposed to?

Second-hand smoke (the smoke inhaled by children as parents smoke around them) is much more of a concern than third-hand smoke, but this doesn't mean the negative effect of third-hand smoke on children or adults is negligible and should be ignored or minimized by claiming research into this topic is "agenda-terror." I find it odd that you both feel a certain topic should be off limits to scientists who are trying to understand more fully the negative impacts of smoking on people who are involuntarily exposed.

Here's a brand of cigarette to add to the list: The Candy Cigarette. Hook your customers on the habit while they're young!

What are the documented negative effects of "third-hand" smoke in infants?

VEGANGELICA · 09-02-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

When did this become the negative effects of smoking thread? seriously? Seriously?

I think here: http://www.musicbanter.com/920393-post120.html

Don't you feel health issues relate to smokers' favorite cigarette brands? Some smokers choose their favorite brand partly because they think the brand is safer than another. For example, apparently many smokers still think incorrectly that low-tar cigarettes are safer, and so select those brands (such as Carlton):

"Even today, many smokers think that low-tar or so-called light or ultra-light cigarettes are better for them than full-strength smokes. Because reducing tar levels also tends to lower nicotine levels, studies have shown that smokers inadvertently compensate for the loss of the nicotine. The rise of the filter cigarette was more a marketing ploy than anything else. There was little evidence to suggest that filter cigarettes were any healthier than regular cigarettes, and the tobacco companies' own researchers knew this to be the case." NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

What are the documented negative effects of "third-hand" smoke in infants?

The health effects of third-hand smoke on infants have not been studied yet, since only during the last year or so have people realized that third-hand smoke may be a significant concern. Because second-hand smoke is known to be especially harmful to children (Health Effects | Smoke-free Homes Program | US EPA), the concern is that children may also be particularly harmed by the third-hand smoke chemicals such as nicotine, which sticks to surfaces after a cigarette is extinguished and can convert into a strong carcinogen.

Davey Moore · 08-30-2010, 06:45 PM

1. American Spirits
2. Classic Marlboro 100s, aka The Cowboy Killers
3. Camel, Turkish Gold
4. Parliaments, non menthol
5. Kamel Reds

However, Pall Malls have the best slogan:

Wherever particular people congregate

It's like it speaks more about a place and a mood than the cigarettes themselves. It sounds like a counter-cultural slogan. Instead, it's Pall Malls.

IWP · 09-01-2010, 11:49 PM

I'm quite a Kool guy if ya know what I mean.

SATCHMO · 09-02-2010, 01:41 AM

When did this become the negative effects of smoking thread? seriously? Seriously?

IWP · 09-02-2010, 02:13 AM

Well how about a postive effect then? It's a hell of a good stress relievier, which is basically the only reason I got into smoking cigarettes, cause I get stressed like a mother****er sometimes, and I feel mellowed out after a cigarette.

TheCunningStunt · 09-02-2010, 02:22 AM

It may kill you... but it takes the stress away!

I'm anti-smoking, but if you're in a thread that's talking about favourite cigarette brands then you're pissing against the wind.

Phzed · 09-02-2010, 09:11 AM

Most anti-smokers are drinkers, not really heavily, but they still drink.
and alcohol is much worse than tobacco.

either way, I smoke Golden Virginia, rolling tobacco.

TheCunningStunt · 09-02-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Phzed

Most anti-smokers are drinkers, not really heavily, but they still drink.
and alcohol is much worse than tobacco.

Rubbish. It all depends on the quantities.
If you have a pack of cigarettes a day, and I have 6 lagers on a Saturday.
Which is gonna be worse?
Same if I get drunk every day, and you just smoke a couple of cigarettes a day.
I really don't think one is worse for you than the other, though I'd say smoking is more addictive. Because smokers need their fix every day.
Drinkers tend to be social drinkers.

View Poll Results: Favorite Cigarette Brand?
Marlboro	9	15.79%
Newport	3	5.26%
Camel	6	10.53%
Basic	0	0%
Doral	0	0%
Kool	2	3.51%
Winston	0	0%
Parliament	1	1.75%
Salem	0	0%
USA Gold	0	0%
American Spirit	5	8.77%
Hand-Rolled	5	8.77%
Cigars	0	0%
I stick to the ganja..	5	8.77%
Don't smoke	21	36.84%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

08-30-2010, 06:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Davey Moore The Great Disappearer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: URI Campus and Coventry, both in RI Posts: 462	1. American Spirits 2. Classic Marlboro 100s, aka The Cowboy Killers 3. Camel, Turkish Gold 4. Parliaments, non menthol 5. Kamel Reds However, Pall Malls have the best slogan: Wherever particular people congregate It's like it speaks more about a place and a mood than the cigarettes themselves. It sounds like a counter-cultural slogan. Instead, it's Pall Malls. __________________ The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

09-01-2010, 11:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
IWP A S T H E T I C Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 532	I'm quite a Kool guy if ya know what I mean. __________________ insert witty remark here

09-02-2010, 02:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
IWP A S T H E T I C Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 532	Well how about a postive effect then? It's a hell of a good stress relievier, which is basically the only reason I got into smoking cigarettes, cause I get stressed like a mother***er sometimes, and I feel mellowed out after a cigarette. __________________ insert witty remark here*

09-02-2010, 02:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	It may kill you... but it takes the stress away! I'm anti-smoking, but if you're in a thread that's talking about favourite cigarette brands then you're pissing against the wind. __________________ I don't feel and I feel great. Last FM

09-02-2010, 01:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,847	When did this become the negative effects of smoking thread? seriously? Seriously?

09-02-2010, 09:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Phzed Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Manchester Posts: 121	Most anti-smokers are drinkers, not really heavily, but they still drink. and alcohol is much worse than tobacco. either way, I smoke Golden Virginia, rolling tobacco. __________________ last.fm & rateyourmusic

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