Your mother told me, just last night.

Lets try and respond with a picture:

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Looks like fun to me!

How does the eagle eye seats treat you?

I got tickets for the section directly below that, Block O South.

Football makes me sleepy.

It's true, I don't understand why people care who wins in American football or any team sport, since usually people don't know the players personally. Also, the players often don't even come from the city or state that the team represents, so "rooting for the home team" is generally an empty statement; there is little "home" in the team at all! And I find it strange that people get so riled up about...a game.

Cheering for an opposing team (when no one knows if I actually like the team or not) is a little different than a family coming into a restaurant and taking out their desire to mock vegetarians by eating calves and piglets: in my scenario, no one dies.

Also, showing a child that you can stand up and be different from the majority is a fine lesson, especially when there is something undesirable about what the majority is doing...which in the case of American football is supporting a sport in which many players end up with concussions and permanent brain damage:

The NFL League officials have fought efforts to make the sport safer for the players...because, of course, that would cut into how much money team owners, etc., can make. Such a noble game! (Yes, I am mocking the NFL League leadership for having refused for so long to make the game safer for players.)

So, anticipation, do the fans care at all about the football players and their health, their future? Or do the fans care mostly about whether "their team" wins, and whether they get to get drunk with their buddies and experience camradery in the stands as players get sacked and perhaps permanently injured on the field? Hmmm.

I agree with you, though, that mocking something one disagrees with may not be the best method to show dissent, although it makes for good comedy sketches and political cartoons.

I like the idea of fans being more than willing to treat complete strangers like family. That is a nice feeling, when strangers join together in a positive way. My last experience with a tailgating party was when I happened to be driving on a road that cut through a tailgating party, and some college students spashed beer through the open window of my car. (And no, they weren't the same people I sat next to in the stands years earlier...and if they *were*, their reaction would be yet another reason to despise footfall.)

Alright, Mom!! :beer:

I usually just watched the band and the mascot running around doing goofy stuff. I liked halftime shows. I woke up for those. I think marching bands are infinitely more interesting than football! But I'm biased: I was a band rat in high school.

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VEGANGELICA, I don't think you completely know what you are talking about regarding NFL football. NFL officials aren't fighting protective measures AT ALL. Over the past few years they have started penalizing and fining players more for helmet-to-helmet contact and late hits on the Quarterback. Yesterday they stated that players would be suspended for head-to-head collisions and 'devastating hits.'

Most former players are really opposed to this, as are many fans (myself included)... Nobody supports unnecessary helmet-to-helmet contact (I dont think), but the view of many is that the game of football is becoming ridiculous in regards to hitting players. Penalties get called almost anytime a player touches the Quarterback. You can't even touch above the neck or below the waist anymore.

It's true, I don't understand why people care who wins in American football or any team sport, since usually people don't know the players personally. Also, the players often don't even come from the city or state that the team represents, so "rooting for the home team" is generally an empty statement; there is little "home" in the team at all! And I find it strange that people get so riled up about...a game.


It isn't about knowing them personally or where the players come from. Every fan, every player, has a common goal: Seeing a world championship for their team. People care because to many people, sports are FUN. I grew up watching and playing lots of sports and simply put; they are exciting and fun to watch. When you really understand the sports, you develop a respect for how talented the professional athletes are.

It's like someone who grew up playing music listening to professional guitarist or pianists or whatever. Once you understand something in-depth, you just appreciate it.

So, anticipation, do the fans care at all about the football players and their health, their future? Or do the fans care mostly about whether "their team" wins, and whether they get to get drunk with their buddies and experience camradery in the stands as players get sacked and perhaps permanently injured on the field? Hmmm.

Not directed at me, but here's my 2 cents. Absolutely fans care about the players health. Nobody wants to see anyone get injured! That being said, everyone (including players) also realizes that football is a physical sport where injuries are a possibility. You make it sound like you have to choose between either caring for players health or getting drunk and having fun. It's BOTH.

I don't, but I hope it involves your love muffin :love:

I like this "Dirty" fella...

That wasn't my picture, dummy. I found it online and thought it was cool looking.

Are you a student at Ohio State?

Yes. 1 of the few, the proud, the brave 55,000 people

:laughing:

That explains why you said you were at that Weezer concert too. I'm an Ohio State fan by the way. Been to at least one game since I was seven years old.

I go to Miami. 1 of the few, the proud, the brave white people out of the 90% white students here! :laughing:

I have not a clue what this thread is about

Nor have I.

But it's 10 pages, so... it's gotta be something good!

It's about this guy now

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Bask in his gingerly glory.

He's that guy!

This thread can be about anything! There are no limits to what we can discuss!

Post a random picture!

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Yes!

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My face when I saw Nicholas Cage. Worst actor ever.

Awww, I love Nic Cage! So much entertainment value! I really need to see Face Off...

I heartily disagree. Good actor who had unfortunately made a lot of crappy movies in the past decade or so.

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My face when I saw that picture. Oldest. Meme. Ever.

You've got three levels of randomness going on there. From what I can tell, there are chicks sitting on top of scented candles, with a Teletubby insert?

Exception: the Bad Lieutenant movie he made last year...

Are they candles? I thought they were parfaits.

I haven't forgiven him for Knowing quite yet.

Hmmm, yeah I guess you're right. The glare on one of them looks like a wick, but I don't see that on any of the others.

Well done, sir!

Haven't seen it, but he's done enough good movies for me to forgive anything.

That's because you haven't seen it.

It doesn't matter, he made Raising Arizona.

Sounds like I need to see Knowing. :laughing:

(V&F is being completely serious)

Kidding aside I respect him because he made Leaving Las Vegas. Which was really touching to me because it was probably the most accurate depiction of alcholism I've ever seen in a film. Which is something that's in my family history and I had problems with myself at only 16 years old.

So it pains me to see him in the corny movies he puts out nowadays.

Yeah, Leaving Las Vegas was another great one.

You know, I actually kind of liked National Treasure.... I let that one slide because it's really intended for children.

Ah I applied there but picked OSU. Wouldn't rule out transferring there though if OSU doesn't live up to my expectations. Are you a freshman? Do you like it?


Also, I heard Miami has some grade A babes. :thumb:

I'm a junior accounting major. I like it a lot, but I got lucky and made a lot of friends who aren't dbags. This school has plenty of them.

But yes, our reputation is quite accurate... ;)

Yes, NFL officials have started to get tougher about preventing concussions and brain injuries OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS...but that follows YEARS of ignoring and minimizing the problem, Dirty. Evidence that I know what I'm talking about:

And:

Dirty, here is still more evidence that the NFL ignored the problem of player brain injury for years, and fans don't like the rules designed to protect players:

Finally, a very condemning article, holding fans responsible for the brain trauma experienced by players...

This last article makes me especially angry at football fanatics...because the article is exactly right: fans, spending money to watch other people clobber each other, encourage the perpetuation of mental damage suffered by the athletes, whose "education has always been given a backseat by their fans and by the people they are supposed to be able to trust - their families and coaches."

I agree that many football players have developed great athletic skill and the ability to think strategically quickly. Being able to drop a ball in with such finesse to someone running at full speed is extremely impressive. But I'd argue that the "game" is much more than just "fun" to many fans. Otherwise, why would they get so upset if one team or the other wins? I mean, really ANGRY at the opposing team and those who support them: An SEC Murder: When Fans Go Too Far | Bleacher Report

I'm glad some fans care about football players' health, although the quote I mentioned earlier suggests fans care more about seeing an exciting game than seeing the players' brains stay intact within their skulls. It's true, I made it sound as if people who are having fun getting drunk and rooting for "their team" can't also be caring for players' health. You are right: fans can do both -- have fun and want players to be safe. And yet, they pay to watch an inherently dangerous sport.

Yes, that's what I like about this thread. :) I think it should be named "The Conversation Thread," if there isn't one already, because this thread is like conversations I have in non-computer life: you start with one topic, such as the difference between Spain's Spanish and Mexico's Spanish, and 30 minutes later end up discussing the Wizard of Oz flying monkeys!

At least, that's what happened with me in a conversation at work yesterday. :D

Your original post didn't say anything about the efforts they have been trying to make recently. for those who don't follow the NFL closely like I do, it made it look like the NFL was still ignoring problems so that's why I had to mention their recent efforts.


Blaming fans for football injuries is RIDICULOUS. So because I buy a ticket to a game, I now support brain injuries? Because I pay for games, I care more about the action than the health of the guys playing? Serious injuries do NOT happen that often... You're a little too far down the slippery slope now. Nobody wants to see injuries, but EVERYONE knows it is just part of the sport. Everyone knows the high risks of their given job. When you join the army, you realize there is a higher risk of you dying than if you worked at an office. Similarly, when you decide to play NFL football, you realize your risk of injury is greater than that of most occupations... but to blame these injuries on the fans?? That is retarded. They don't have to be blamed on anybody, they just occasionally happen. It's a part of professional sports and everyone involved knows that.

I think the NFL 'ignored' it for a long time because... how do you really fix it? I don't think they had any ideas on what to really do about brain injuries. They still don't really know. Like I said... It's just a very physical game with absolute freak athletes who are gigantic and run like the wind. Injuries happen and ya deal with them. It is especially hard when, not only the fans, but also the players themselves are opposed to NFL rulings, like fining players for completely legal hits (like they did this weekend to a few guys). The only rules I think fans really don't agree with are ones that involve late hits on quarterbacks sometimes (Refs call penalties that aren't late hits or vicious and it changes the outcomes of games).


Murder instances over games are such isolated instances. 99,99% of fans, at the worst, will get pissed off and chuck their remote across the room after a loss or drop a few F-bombs around the house...and by the end of the day they are cooled down and just disappointed in the loss.

Why don't the players stop if it is so dangerous? Because they LOVE this game. The game they have spent their whole lives playing and learning and training for. Your articles basically say that because fans pack the stadiums each weekend, it keeps guys playing in the NFL. That's bull****, if an NFL player was really seriously scared about their health, then they could play one or two seasons and live comfortably as a millionaire for the rest of their lives.

Some player's education may take a back seat to education, but that is because they are world-class athletes who make more in a year than some people make in their lifetimes. Anyways, the 'meathead' stereotype is WAY overblown. The majority of players in the NFL are VERY smart people, even if sometimes it's a different type of intelligence than we are used to. Yeah, a lot of guys probably cant perform open heart surgery or teach a physics seminar class... but then again surgeons and professors probably can't remember playbooks with hundreds of plays, or know how to manipulate a safety to the corner so you can through a post route, or how to read a defense before the snap and call out hot routes and audibles. All this being done in just a couple seconds.

I used to play rugby, a sport with just as much contact only without pads, I didn't get paid, and I didn't do it because of crowds wanting me to clobber someone.

And why did I do it?
I did it because I enjoyed playing the game, nothing more, nothing less.

Of course there's risk, there's risk every time you wake up in the mornings. And I do have a permanent reminder of my rugby days in the form of a blown out knee, never had a concussion, never had any head injury but these things happen, just as you can get them from riding a bike.

How about that? Maybe we ban bikes because they're dangerous & cause head injuries too and just have people driving around in great big padded 4 x 4's instead.

Erica dear you're a nice lady but sometimes you really do talk a load of rubbish.

If only the whole world was like this;

Vegan, can't you just try and enjoy it and stop worrying about all that garbage? It's fun to watch.

(at least as much fun as watching the marching band at halftime, I promise)