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Old 04-23-2017, 05:16 AM   #2611 (permalink)
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This ain't about what "chula" thinks about Holdsworth. Use google for christ sakes.

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Alex Machacheck
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:08 AM   #2612 (permalink)
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That the listed guitarists praised Holdsworth and that should be taken as evidence that he really was something special.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:17 AM   #2613 (permalink)
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This ain't about what "chula" thinks about Holdsworth. Use google for christ sakes.

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Old 04-23-2017, 06:20 AM   #2614 (permalink)
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That the listed guitarists praised Holdsworth and that should be taken as evidence that he really was something special.
I can't tell if it was directed at me or if it was just a general statement. So far I have no opinion one way or the other about this guy.
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Old 04-23-2017, 06:54 AM   #2615 (permalink)
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I've decided Bundles by Soft Machine showcases his best work.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:10 AM   #2616 (permalink)
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I've decided Bundles by Soft Machine showcases his best work.
I just listened to a few snippets and this sounds promising. I do like Soft Machine.
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Old 04-23-2017, 07:11 AM   #2617 (permalink)
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He doesn't answer questions like this. I tried.
...but, it does give an example of why he's so frustratingly myopic.

O.H.: Yes, Bundles is among his best work. I'm glad you discovered this despite Chula's posts.
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Old 04-23-2017, 10:49 AM   #2618 (permalink)
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Just caught up with the fact that Allan Holdsworth has died, which is sad news. He was clearly quite an extraordinary guitar player, a real guitarists' guitarist, though he was usually too fast and technical for my liking.

With Bundles he turned Soft Machine into a different sounding band, but this is not the time or place to gripe that. For instance, I wouldn't dream of suggesting that he hijacked the band's reputation to use it as a personal showcase, as some long-standing SM fans might. Instead I'll post Allan's hard-rockin' composition from Gong's Gazeuse album, recorded a couple of years later:-

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Old 04-23-2017, 12:07 PM   #2619 (permalink)
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Great early track.

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I wanted to take a moment to share a few words with you about Allan Holdsworth. I was saddened to hear about his passing and I am sending best thoughts and wishes to his family. It may not be obvious but he was a major influence on my musical outlook. His approach to guitar was so unique and quite honestly baffling, especially to the 13 yeard old me who spent a summer trying to learn licks from his "Metal Fatigue" album. My dad was an admirer of Allan's playing as well. He talked about him in high regard in several interviews.

One day Allan came to our house to visit my dad. I don't recall the exact circumstances but it may have had something to do with Chad Wackerman who used to play drums with my dad and also played with Allan. In any case, I remember that I was 13 and I couldn't understand the scales Allan was using or the chords he was playing over. I had the opportunity to ask him a few questions that day and he was very patient with me as I attempted to show him some of the things I had tried to learn. He showed me a few easier licks and some two hand tapping ideas.

As the years went by the scales never got any easier nor did the uncommon chords he reached for. Little by little, elements of his approach to guitar entered my own vocabulary and passed through my own musical filters. I believe that Allan's influence on my playing isn't heard as a derivative in terms of playing his licks, it's more of my own interpretation of how to apply the elements that I love in his playing, spontaneous risk and reward, tension and release. His ability to effortlessly move through rhythmic contours with harmonic variety is what all guitarists who've heard him, have marveled at.

I was lucky enough to know Allan after my dad had passed away. He was very kind and spoke fondly of the time he visited with my dad. Allan even played with my band on stage a few times. He was so humble and was allergic to compliments. If I mentioned something about his playing on a record or even in the moment while playing together he would say with a smile, "I'm sorry you had to hear that."
Not everyone could appreciate the high contrast in his music but those who did, really did! He was most in his element in his own music. I remember that when he played with us on stage he kept saying he was so nervous. It's hard to understand that because he was so gifted as a player but I can empathize because I feel that way when I'm outside my own comfort zone. It produces a tendency to block your creative instincts and rely on patterns instead of opening the door to your greatest musical inspiration. That said, it seemed to me that Allan had total freedom in his playing and it was truly inspirational to me.

I am currently making a new guitar solo album called F.O.H. Live In The Moment Part II for my Dweezil Zappa "Others Of Intention" Pledge Music campaign Dweezil Zappa & The Others Of Intention: Music In The Name Of...? on PledgeMusic. It's a "Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar" Style album. I was putting all of the finishing touches on it but then I heard the news about Allan. Now I feel compelled to find a solo from a recent tour so that I can include it on the album. I would like to pay homage in my own way to Allan. I know I have reached outside my comfort zone on recent tours and sought to get into the zone of "total freedom."
With that said, I will be making some changes to the album in order to make this happen. It will cause a short delay which I apologize for in advance but it's important to me to make this tribute part of the record. I think I will call it "I'm Sorry You Had To Hear That."

RIP Allan Holdsworth, I will always appreciate your musical voice and your creativity and I'm glad I got to hear that!

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Old 04-23-2017, 12:43 PM   #2620 (permalink)
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He doesn't answer questions like this. I tried.
Dude.

Google Allan Holdsworth tributes.

Pretty much every electric guitar player on the planet is coming out with praises to quite possibly, the greatest ever.
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