Have you ever felt suicidal?

Bane of your existence · 03-02-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Well, if it makes you feel any better sometimes I wanna give you a swirly for being such a goody goody. Maybe steal your lunch money or pull your pants down in front of the whole school.

Yeah, despair blows, but when you become bored of despair, then you're truly ****ed. I miss despair. It was fun.

My problem isn't so much that I've gone through "hellish crap," though my parenting wasn't exactly inspired, but whose is? My problem is that I haven't really gone through hellish crap. And any crap I did go through was caused by me already being a fruit loop. It's the fact that nothing's really happened to jolt me out of my apathy and make the world feel real that keeps me like I am. No deaths of anyone important to me. I've never even been to a funeral. Never seen any dead bodies. No molestation. Never really been physically abused. My mother isn't a drunk or an addict. No terrible car accidents. No near death experiences. Never really had one of those life changing role models. Nothing really ever happened in my life, so I was allowed to wallow in my own isolated little self indulgent world of numbness.

Yeah, I hear you. I've personally gone through and seen a lot of shit in my time. I kind of feel like all of that made me stronger. My suicidal thoughts are generally more from a place of existential crisis. My head feels like an infinite regress of "what's the point?" Since I was a teenager, my sad moments are almost my most happy (happy is probably a bad word. not suicidal is better). A pointless existence is daunting to me.

Trollheart · 03-02-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo

You Dubliners...and yere big heads.

That's why property prices are so much higher up here! We all have to have HUGE doors and windows to accomodate our massive, overinflated heads. All costs money, you know... Yeah but you do have the lovely, gorgeous River Shannon down there! I went cruising on that in 1985; almost sunk the boat! Seriously, we bent the propellor and had to put the thing into dry dock! What a holiday that was!

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Well, if it makes you feel any better sometimes I wanna give you a swirly for being such a goody goody. Maybe steal your lunch money or pull your pants down in front of the whole school.

Just to make you even more annoyed, I don't see myself or set out to present myself as a "goody-goody". I've done plenty of wrong stuff in my time, though I don't really drink and I've never taken drugs, but as Rory says, "I aint' no saint". It's just that I tend to try to see and present the most positive face I can to the world, and try to treat people as I'd like to be treated. I don't take myself too seriously and am always ready to make a (bad) joke, either about myself or some situation where normally humour would not be expected. But I like who I am, so if you want to pull my pants down, go ahead: it won't matter to me nor change who I am... HEY! What are you DOING??? Hah! Didn't know us old fellas wear BRACES , didya now sonny?

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My problem isn't so much that I've gone through "hellish crap," though my parenting wasn't exactly inspired, but whose is? My problem is that I haven't really gone through hellish crap. And any crap I did go through was caused by me already being a fruit loop. It's the fact that nothing's really happened to jolt me out of my apathy and make the world feel real that keeps me like I am. No deaths of anyone important to me. I've never even been to a funeral. Never seen any dead bodies. No molestation. Never really been physically abused. My mother isn't a drunk or an addict. No terrible car accidents. No near death experiences. Never really had one of those life changing role models. Nothing really ever happened in my life, so I was allowed to wallow in my own isolated little self indulgent world of numbness.

Seriously? You've NEVER been to a funeral? No relatives, friends, work colleagues, nothing? You're lucky. I've lost count of the amount of funerals I've been to, though at my age it's kind of almost more "booking your ticket in advance" really...

You should be happy you haven't had any bad **** in your life, but you should probably also be aware that unless you're very very lucky, you'll experience some, at some point in your life. That's just how the world is. Enjoy it while you can.

The Batlord · 03-02-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Seriously? You've NEVER been to a funeral? No relatives, friends, work colleagues, nothing? You're lucky. I've lost count of the amount of funerals I've been to, though at my age it's kind of almost more "booking your ticket in advance" really...

You should be happy you haven't had any bad **** in your life, but you should probably also be aware that unless you're very very lucky, you'll experience some, at some point in your life. That's just how the world is. Enjoy it while you can.

I think bad things happening to people is underrated. They test you, show you your limits, and help you grow. They can certainly suck and more than suck, but without them you just end up being an overgrown child. *ahem*

Madam Butterfly · 03-03-2013, 01:55 PM

I've never considered suicide...although I can think of a few people that I wish had...

WWWP · 03-03-2013, 02:11 PM

^ That's pretty ****ed up given the tone of this thread.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-03-2013, 04:56 PM

Bad taste.

PoorOldPo · 03-03-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That's why property prices are so much higher up here! We all have to have HUGE doors and windows to accomodate our massive, overinflated heads. All costs money, you know... Yeah but you do have the lovely, gorgeous River Shannon down there! I went cruising on that in 1985; almost sunk the boat! Seriously, we bent the propellor and had to put the thing into dry dock! What a holiday that was!

man, you haven't been to Ireland until you've been to Donegal/ Clare or Kerry. Simple as!

Went camping out around here once, was amazing.

Freebase Dali · 03-03-2013, 06:09 PM

I keep coming across people that, for some reason, expect there to be a meaning to life. And because they don't find one, they start thinking about offing themselves.

Why do people need some greater meaning in order to enjoy life? Why is such a thing so prerequisite for so many people? Just because we have the capacity to extrapolate the possibility of meaning via the ability to recognize and understand patterns and integrate them emotionally says absolutely nothing about whether life requires meaning or not.
And for a person to be enslaved by their own assumptions that there must be meaning beyond the simple act of enjoying your life and making it the best you can, is probably the issue to begin with.
If we didn't go off searching for some intangible thing, we might not be so disappointed when we never get it.

Just live life and enjoy it. If you need more than that, you are confusing the entire point.

Bane of your existence · 03-03-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I keep coming across people that, for some reason, expect there to be a meaning to life. And because they don't find one, they start thinking about offing themselves.

Why do people need some greater meaning in order to enjoy life? Why is such a thing so prerequisite for so many people? Just because we have the capacity to extrapolate the possibility of meaning via the ability to recognize and understand patterns and integrate them emotionally says absolutely nothing about whether life requires meaning or not.
And for a person to be enslaved by their own assumptions that there must be meaning beyond the simple act of enjoying your life and making it the best you can, is probably the issue to begin with.
If we didn't go off searching for some intangible thing, we might not be so disappointed when we never get it.

Just live life and enjoy it. If you need more than that, you are confusing the entire point.

This is a very good question, but I have no idea how to answer it. It just does? It matters quite a bit, and I don't know why. The idea that at some point in the future there will be no trace of humanity left in the universe, and all of this was for naught, just really sucks. I also don't know why that makes people suicidal, rather than just bummed out. I guess that it just removes the motivation behind toughing it out through life's pitfalls. What's the point of dealing with pain and strife when being dead doesn't involve that?
That's the best I can do.

Engine · 03-03-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence

This is a very good question, but I have no idea how to answer it. It just does?

That's the perfect answer to 98% of Freebase Dali's needlessly wordy philosophical musings.

He doesn't want an answer anyway, he just wants you to know that he has deep thoughts, and would possibly only need to study a little bit to get a high score on the verbal and analytical portions of the GRE exam.

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03-03-2013, 06:09 PM	#48 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I keep coming across people that, for some reason, expect there to be a meaning to life. And because they don't find one, they start thinking about offing themselves. Why do people need some greater meaning in order to enjoy life? Why is such a thing so prerequisite for so many people? Just because we have the capacity to extrapolate the possibility of meaning via the ability to recognize and understand patterns and integrate them emotionally says absolutely nothing about whether life requires meaning or not. And for a person to be enslaved by their own assumptions that there must be meaning beyond the simple act of enjoying your life and making it the best you can, is probably the issue to begin with. If we didn't go off searching for some intangible thing, we might not be so disappointed when we never get it. Just live life and enjoy it. If you need more than that, you are confusing the entire point. __________________