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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ah right I never knew he had legitimate mental health problems, in that case I have no idea how to handle the situation.


Isn't there any services that you could talk to that would offer some advice? It's worth a try.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:03 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Are you like sure sure? Cause you said some Xanax came up missing, and if he's a pillhead I'd say it's more likely that he took them than he sold them. Pills would explain mood swings and sociopathic behavior way better than just weed would.
I'm pretty sure. My three best friends have had pain killer addictions. One of my good friends from high school was addicted to pain killers and heroin. I've always stayed away from drugs but I've been around them all my life. I know what people look like when they're high on anything but weed. He's not taking the pills. Since he was prescribed them we've been keeping a close eye on them. We found out they were missing the day after. Another clue is that my brother is incapable of hiding anything even when he cares enough to try too. I've found weed baggies and dutch guts strewn about. He leaves roaches in the same water bottle as his cigarette butts. If he were doing pills...I'd see evidence of it. I don't.

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Ah right I never knew he had legitimate mental health problems, in that case I have no idea how to handle the situation.


Isn't there any services that you could talk to that would offer some advice? It's worth a try.
You guys are my services right now. I couldn't ask for anything better. Appointments are being made for a therapist but besides that we're still figuring out what the best solution is. Just so the lot of you know, my parents are aware of the things you've told me to do. They are very thankful. I told them that sometimes there can be caring people on the internet. Just wanted to say thanks again.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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My brother is two people. One is everything you describe to a 'T'. I told him yesterday that I hope somebody beats the f*cking sh*t out of him and pisses on his face. I lost all self control and restriction. I'm not happy about that.

The other person is a caring loving fun person who I considered my best friend. He's a manic depressed bi-polar with sociopathic tendencies. It's tearing our family apart.
Ahh yeah. I've been there in his spot. it's really sad for him because he must be a lot of pain to be acting this way, especially if you say he's caring and loving otherwise. When one is sick like that, you really do not care about anyone or anything besides killing that sick part of yourself and you'll do anything to feel something different. You lose all sense of self/reality/morality and you become the biggest ******* and then one day you pull out of it and your life is a horrible ****ing mess.


When was he diagnosed btw? And how old is he?
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ahh yeah. I've been there in his spot. it's really sad for him because he must be a lot of pain to be acting this way, especially if you say he's caring and loving otherwise. When one is sick like that, you really do not care about anyone or anything besides killing that sick part of yourself and you'll do anything to feel something different. You lose all sense of self/reality/morality and you become the biggest ******* and then one day you pull out of it and your life is a horrible ****ing mess.


When was he diagnosed btw? And how old is he?
He's been going to a psychiatrist for a month now and he'll be 20 in June.
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He's been going to a psychiatrist for a month now and he'll be 20 in June.
That's about the time my illness started to really manifest and it's really the worst at that time, I mean seriously the ****ing worst. The depressive episodes make you want to pull out your nerves you hurt so bad and when you're manic you're on autopilot, like it's basically like being black out drunk for a week or so. Honestly, don't put stock in psychiatrists, because he'll probably tell the shrink what he wants to hear and convince everyone that he's okay when he's not. What he really needs is someone close to support him (like you), and treat him like a human being and not an illness, and especially not a burden. He can't help it that he's sick, even though he's a total ******* right now.

What it feels like to me, is that he's acting this way because he harbours some kind of delusional grudge against your family and uses whatever that is to justify his actions. Make no mistake, he's probably doing all of it on purpose. It might be hard, but try to suss out what it could possibly be and do your best to correct any of his delusional thinking like that. It's a huge problem when you're bipolar.

I guess this response is a little too compassionate but seriously I've been there where he is and I know how it feels. I really hope it gets better, I did but it took a lot of time & energy.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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That's about the time my illness started to really manifest and it's really the worst at that time, I mean seriously the ****ing worst. The depressive episodes make you want to pull out your nerves you hurt so bad and when you're manic you're on autopilot, like it's basically like being black out drunk for a week or so. Honestly, don't put stock in psychiatrists, because he'll probably tell the shrink what he wants to hear and convince everyone that he's okay when he's not. What he really needs is someone close to support him (like you), and treat him like a human being and not an illness, and especially not a burden. He can't help it that he's sick, even though he's a total ******* right now.

What it feels like to me, is that he's acting this way because he harbours some kind of delusional grudge against your family and uses whatever that is to justify his actions. Make no mistake, he's probably doing all of it on purpose. It might be hard, but try to suss out what it could possibly be and do your best to correct any of his delusional thinking like that. It's a huge problem when you're bipolar.

I guess this response is a little too compassionate but seriously I've been there where he is and I know how it feels. I really hope it gets better, I did but it took a lot of time & energy.
Thanks Herm. Right now I'm just leaving him alone. I'm going to give it a week or so before I start talking to him again. Maybe he'll be in a different frame of mind in a week. I just caught him today smoking outside again. My mom and I were watching him on the deck from the kitchen. My mom opened the door and he immediately threw something in the grass. I went outside and started looking for it. I asked him where the blunt was and he said he didn't know. I found it and asked him if he was proud of himself. He didn't answer and just walked inside.

He's very sick and it's breaking my heart.
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Here's a developing story. Yesterday when I was exploding on him he for some unknown reason gave me the name of the kid who has been giving him weed. We'll call him John. I actually know who John is. He used to be friends with my best friends brother. I called up to ask for Johns' phone number and got it. Called him up and told him the situation. I told him that I couldn't have him calling my brother anymore. He said he respected that and that he'd oblige.

The phone rang about thirty minutes ago. The caller hung up as soon as my mother picked up the phone. The number on the caller ID was Johns number. I called him and he actually picked up and I told him I was completely serious and that he's an idiot for not knowing that I have three uncles on the police department of the town he lives in. I told him I didn't care what he did but that if he tried contacting Ryan one more time he wouldn't like the consequences. He hung up on me. Then I sent him this text.

"Listen. I don't want to cause trouble for you but I'm certainly capable of doing so. Leave Ryan alone. Be a smart business guy and cut your loss. He is not worth the amount of **** that will fall on you if you don't. I couldn't be more serious."

I don't need this **** right now in my life.
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I really wish I could give you a big ass hug right now. I am so devastated that it's got this bad for you and your family. We are all here for you. Anytime you need to just rant and get it out please feel free to use this as a base.
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I really wish I could give you a big ass hug right now. I am so devastated that it's got this bad for you and your family. We are all here for you. Anytime you need to just rant and get it out please feel free to use this as a base.
I could use a hug right now. I haven't even mentioned this but I'm also going through a a semi break up with my girlfriend of 4 1/2 years. We're not seeing other people and I still see her but the emotional part of the relationship is on indefinite hiatus. I'm thankful that I still have her but it's just another stressful thing that's going on with all the other stressful things.

Tuesday I get an escape though. I'm seeing Between the Buried and Me and Russian Circles in Philly.
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I could use a hug right now. I haven't even mentioned this but I'm also going through a a semi break up with my girlfriend of 4 1/2 years. We're not seeing other people and I still see her but the emotional part of the relationship is on indefinite hiatus. I'm thankful that I still have her but it's just another stressful thing that's going on with all the other stressful things.

Tuesday I get an escape though. I'm seeing Between the Buried and Me and Russian Circles in Philly.
Awww I'm sorry, it's like the last thing you need right now. I am keeping you in my thoughts and I know from experience that when life is a pile of ****, if you just hold on and stay strong you can get through to the other end where life becomes normal again. I think you're a very strong person and I know many people wouldn't have been as supportive of their brother as you have. It certainly speaks volumes about you. xxxx

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