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Carpe Mortem 05-01-2015 12:06 PM

Works for some people. Nada moi though. Hopefully not him either, it'd really suck if he was lying all these years about not being into marriage.

Chula Vista 05-01-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584444)
I consider myself married because I don't want to give in to the religious overtones of an actual marriage.

Nothing at all religious about my marriage. It's about the tax breaks.

YorkeDaddy 05-01-2015 12:25 PM

Atheists can get married too

adidasss 05-01-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1584441)
I've learned basic words and phrases over the years, but I'm still bad at it :laughing:

My guy knows "kuratz" and "guzitza". Because bacically it's all I thought him in two years :laughing: (and those are the two most importaint words in a gay relationship :serious: ). I'm planning to introduce him to my family this summer and they don't speak a word of english! So I'm trying at least a Dobar dan, kako ste? :dreamy:

Exo 05-01-2015 12:48 PM

Not me. Although I have friends who are married and one of my best friends just proposed to his girlfriend. We were all together last night watching the wedding video of the one friend, and the proposal video of my other one. He had secretly filmed it. It was f*cking adorable.

The Batlord 05-01-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1584461)
Not me. Although I have friends who are married and one of my best friends just proposed to his girlfriend. We were all together last night watching the wedding video of the one friend, and the proposal video of my other one. He had secretly filmed it. It was f*cking adorable.

Sounds like a good time to fake a heart attack.

Ninetales 05-01-2015 01:30 PM

im at the age where some of my friends are starting to get married. ive never been to a wedding before and just want to get tooned at someone elses. soo like a month ago one of my friends got engaged but shes like one of those friends I see maybe 3 times a year, so im kinda doubting ill get an invite. but we always go camping in july/august so im gonna try and weasel my way onto the guest list there. and to top it all off another couple of my friends just got engaged (and shes like best friends with the other one) but again I see them the same amount. and theyll probably be on that camping trip as well. so this camping trip has huge implications for me im going to have to give a good pitch and get invited to both. pressures on for me.

duga 05-01-2015 01:35 PM

Married. For a bit more than 7 months now. Party.

Chula Vista 05-01-2015 02:19 PM

Details!

Burning Down 05-01-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1584459)
My guy knows "kuratz" and "guzitza". Because bacically it's all I thought him in two years :laughing: (and those are the two most importaint words in a gay relationship :serious: ). I'm planning to introduce him to my family this summer and they don't speak a word of english! So I'm trying at least a Dobar dan, kako ste? :dreamy:

Oh yeah, you don't want the family meeting to be a disaster :laughing:

Guybrush 05-01-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584444)
I consider myself married because I don't want to give in to the religious overtones of an actual marriage.

We had a non-religious wedding, so that's probably possible in your part of the world as well.

Carpe Mortem 05-01-2015 04:50 PM

Marriage was originally a religious institution. I know that technically you can get married and it's not religious nowadays, but I like to make stances about things sometimes. Plus the whole metaphorical idea of losing myself. I like my independence. I don't want something marking me as belonging to anyone, never wanna change my name in the slightest as a minor point. Don't want who I am tied to another person on the record. Weddings are expensive, divorces are expensive, just not my bag man.

And regrettably the tax breaks aren't what they used to be, depending on your relationship. If one partner makes more, it is beneficial, but when both make about the same it's actually best to file separately.

It's a shame how marriage is the only way most people seem to deem a relationship 'serious'. It's also a shame how retarded the word 'boyfriend' sounds, I feel like a 16 year old and try my best to say 'partner' without sounding like a secretive lesbian.

Musicwhore A-Z 05-01-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1584130)
what is marriage?

A license, and that's all it is. Has nothing to do with "commitment". I know a few couples with children who are very commited to each other yet never married. Likewise, I also know some who are married and FAR from "commited", if you know what I mean. In short order, one doesn't have to be married to reap the same "benefits" ( I say that VERY loosely ) as a married couple. Sex, companionship, a home, and a family can all be obtained without letting the state you reside in decide what your relationship is. Interesting comments everybody, pro and con ( :wavey:).

Chula Vista 05-01-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584524)
It's also a shame how retarded the word 'boyfriend' sounds, I feel like a 16 year old and try my best to say 'partner' without sounding like a secretive lesbian.

This was actually a pretty big part of it for me at the time. I got sick of saying my girlfriend and wanted to say my wife.

Guybrush 05-02-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584524)
Marriage was originally a religious institution. I know that technically you can get married and it's not religious nowadays, but I like to make stances about things sometimes.

It was? That could be true, but really - there are so many marriage customs going back so far in time, it's impossible to know for sure if any religion can really claim ownership over it. Different cultures and religions have different marriage customs, but of course we didn't do our marriage according to them anyways.

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584524)
Plus the whole metaphorical idea of losing myself. I like my independence. I don't want something marking me as belonging to anyone, never wanna change my name in the slightest as a minor point. Don't want who I am tied to another person on the record. Weddings are expensive, divorces are expensive, just not my bag man.

And regrettably the tax breaks aren't what they used to be, depending on your relationship. If one partner makes more, it is beneficial, but when both make about the same it's actually best to file separately.

It's a shame how marriage is the only way most people seem to deem a relationship 'serious'. It's also a shame how retarded the word 'boyfriend' sounds, I feel like a 16 year old and try my best to say 'partner' without sounding like a secretive lesbian.

I think marriage, the solidifying of union between two lovers, is popular for a reason and I think it has little to do with religion, actually. I believe it is competitive as a meme (meme theory) and as a strategy because of various reasons. Like it facilitates cooperation in raising children, it caters to people's possessive feelings (you don't want to share your partner) and it helps keep cooperative couples and families together.

These are just a few points and I'm obviously just scratching a surface, but I imagine that if a society didn't have marriage, that society would probably become more competitive once marriage did evolve in culture and became popular. More incentive for people to cooperate about raising kids and building value to their lives would have a multitude of consequences.

As for personal feelings about it, I didn't feel a loss of freedom when we married. Being a husband is pretty much like being a boyfriend I'd say. We have two incomes instead of one, so that gives us way more economic freedom. We both "dare" to invest in things like a house partly because the other can't just run away from it all. Unless you'd rather be with someone else than your wife/husband, the real "loss" of freedom comes with children.

Scarlett O'Hara 05-02-2015 06:39 AM

I've never been married. Can't wait for the eventual wedding where I dress like a fairy princess in a pink dress. I'm lucky I look 18 still, it means I will still look young when I get married eventually.

I do want to marry my cat. Is that possible?

Burning Down 05-02-2015 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1584783)
I've never been married. Can't wait for the eventual wedding where I dress like a fairy princess in a pink dress. I'm lucky I look 18 still, it means I will still look young when I get married eventually.

I do want to marry my cat. Is that possible?

I better be invited to your future wedding.

The Batlord 05-02-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1584783)
I've never been married. Can't wait for the eventual wedding where I dress like a fairy princess in a pink dress. I'm lucky I look 18 still, it means I will still look young when I get married eventually.

I do want to marry my cat. Is that possible?

Yes, at least you'll still look young.

innerspaceboy 05-02-2015 09:43 AM

I'm proposing next month. Also planning a nerdcore wedding to celebrate love, piracy, marshmallow cereal, cartoons, and an array of fandoms. Details here.

Burning Down 05-02-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1584837)
I'm proposing next month. Also planning a nerdcore wedding to celebrate love, piracy, marshmallow cereal, cartoons, and an array of fandoms. Details here.

Awesome! How long have you been together?

Key 05-02-2015 09:48 AM

I'm not into the whole idea of it at all. I also don't like the thought that if you don't want to get married, that means you don't love the person or you don't think you'll be with them forever. Honestly, I'm happy with how my life is right now, and I don't really see any reason to change anything in it. And I don't think i'll change my mind about it any time in the near or far future.

Carpe Mortem 05-02-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1584733)
It was? That could be true, but really - there are so many marriage customs going back so far in time, it's impossible to know for sure if any religion can really claim ownership over it. Different cultures and religions have different marriage customs, but of course we didn't do our marriage according to them anyways.



I think marriage, the solidifying of union between two lovers, is popular for a reason and I think it has little to do with religion, actually. I believe it is competitive as a meme (meme theory) and as a strategy because of various reasons. Like it facilitates cooperation in raising children, it caters to people's possessive feelings (you don't want to share your partner) and it helps keep cooperative couples and families together.

These are just a few points and I'm obviously just scratching a surface, but I imagine that if a society didn't have marriage, that society would probably become more competitive once marriage did evolve in culture and became popular. More incentive for people to cooperate about raising kids and building value to their lives would have a multitude of consequences.

As for personal feelings about it, I didn't feel a loss of freedom when we married. Being a husband is pretty much like being a boyfriend I'd say. We have two incomes instead of one, so that gives us way more economic freedom. We both "dare" to invest in things like a house partly because the other can't just run away from it all. Unless you'd rather be with someone else than your wife/husband, the real "loss" of freedom comes with children.

Chill out dude, I'm not knocking you or anyone else for being married. Just pointing out my specific reasons for not wanting to as a weirdo who selfishly likes her **** to belong to her alone. I'm happy for you that its obviously something you wanted and cherish.

Carpe Mortem 05-02-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1584840)
I'm not into the whole idea of it at all. I also don't like the thought that if you don't want to get married, that means you don't love the person or you don't think you'll be with them forever. Honestly, I'm happy with how my life is right now, and I don't really see any reason to change anything in it. And I don't think i'll change my mind about it any time in the near or far future.

Amen Ki. I don't see how marriage would change my relationship for the better or the worse, we're already fully committed and very much in love.

Chula Vista 05-02-2015 10:01 AM

Ki and Carpe. It's all cool. To be 100% honest, if not for us getting pregnant we may have never done it.

I firmly believe that once a kid enters the mix though, it's the right thing to do.

Key 05-02-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1584848)

I firmly believe that once a kid enters the mix though, it's the right thing to do.

I can respect that. I won't ever have to worry about that though since i'd rather chop my own dick off than ever have a kid. I have a kitten, and that's all I will ever need.

innerspaceboy 05-02-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1584839)
Awesome! How long have you been together?

Just two years this August. We moved in together after the first 6 months and have never in any of our past long-term relationships been more sure that we're right for each other.

We each suffered incredible emotional and psychological trials in our respective youths, we are both avid writers, rational skeptics, cultural historians, lovers of the arts and lifelong students of music. Our eccentric wit is well-matched, we have our own language of obscure sub-cultural references, we share a passion for anti-authoritarian philosophies and penchant for the avant-garde, and we inspire the best in one another. Oh yeah, and that whole love thing as well.

I spun Metal Machine Music on our first date and knew from her reaction that it was love at first-listen.

YorkeDaddy 05-02-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1584894)
Just two years this August. We moved in together after the first 6 months and have never in any of our past long-term relationships been more sure that we're right for each other.

We each suffered incredible emotional and psychological trials in our respective youths, we are both avid writers, rational skeptics, cultural historians, lovers of the arts and lifelong students of music. Our eccentric wit is well-matched, we have our own language of obscure sub-cultural references, we share a passion for anti-authoritarian philosophies and penchant for the avant-garde, and we inspire the best in one another. Oh yeah, and that whole love thing as well.

I spun Metal Machine Music on our first date and knew from her reaction that it was love at first-listen.

Sounds like an awesome relationship!

Burning Down 05-02-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1584894)
Just two years this August. We moved in together after the first 6 months and have never in any of our past long-term relationships been more sure that we're right for each other.

We each suffered incredible emotional and psychological trials in our respective youths, we are both avid writers, rational skeptics, cultural historians, lovers of the arts and lifelong students of music. Our eccentric wit is well-matched, we have our own language of obscure sub-cultural references, we share a passion for anti-authoritarian philosophies and penchant for the avant-garde, and we inspire the best in one another. Oh yeah, and that whole love thing as well.

I spun Metal Machine Music on our first date and knew from her reaction that it was love at first-listen.

Nice. It sounds like you complement each other quite well. I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years now.

Frownland 05-02-2015 12:36 PM

If I found a girl who was into MMM I'd slap a ring on that too.

YorkeDaddy 05-02-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1584910)
If I found a girl who was into MMM I'd slap a ring on that too.

but what if she looked like this

https://saboteur365.files.wordpress..../uglywoman.gif

I could totally see her diggin MMM

Scarlett O'Hara 05-02-2015 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1584788)
I better be invited to your future wedding.

Of course and I better be invited to yours too!

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1584821)
Yes, at least you'll still look young.

Duh, who cares that I'm like 101.

ladyislingering 05-02-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1584849)
I can respect that. I won't ever have to worry about that though since i'd rather chop my own dick off than ever have a kid. I have a kitten, and that's all I will ever need.

this is why I love you.

the childfree life is the best life.

we can afford everything we should ever want, never have to worry about babysitters or shit pants, and we have the freedom to travel or really do anything we please.

we have such a perfect life. children are unnecessary - leave it to the breeders, they can have the next generation of cattle.

The Batlord 05-02-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1585268)
this is why I love you.

the childfree life is the best life.

we can afford everything we should ever want, never have to worry about babysitters or shit pants, and we have the freedom to travel or really do anything we please.

we have such a perfect life. children are unnecessary - leave it to the breeders, they can have the next generation of cattle.

I don't know about that. You live with Ki.

Guybrush 05-03-2015 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1584843)
Chill out dude, I'm not knocking you or anyone else for being married. Just pointing out my specific reasons for not wanting to as a weirdo who selfishly likes her **** to belong to her alone. I'm happy for you that its obviously something you wanted and cherish.

Don't worry, it's not an angry attack on you. It's just discussing an interesting topic. You know, like some people do on discussion forums. ;)


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Originally Posted by ladyislingering
we have such a perfect life. children are unnecessary - leave it to the breeders, they can have the next generation of cattle.

Cattle?

Oh well, this brings up an interesting point, even if I suspect for the wrong reasons. Are people who have children happier or not than people who don't?

If you want to maximize happiness in your life, should you have children or not?

Oriphiel 05-03-2015 05:44 AM

It's a toss up. Some people really hate kids and see them as life-draining screaming little goblins, and others find it amazing that they can bring life into the world and try to help them to be a great person. For every Ki and Lis, there is a Chula.

The Batlord 05-03-2015 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1585297)
It's a toss up. Some people really hate kids and see them as life-draining screaming little goblins, and others find it amazing that they can bring life into the world and try to help them to be a great person. For every Ki and Lis, there is a Chula.

Either way, the human race is ****ed.

Oriphiel 05-03-2015 06:01 AM

Actually, now that I think about it, I think Lis and Ki would make great parents. I can imagine Ki teaching them how to play violent video games, while Lis spins her favorite records. They seem pretty self-conscious about the whole thing, like they believe that they would make horrible parents, but I think that doubt would drive them to be a lot more careful and truly loving than many other parents (who just assume that their parenting skills are amazing, and everything that goes wrong is the child's fault).

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1585300)
Either way, the human race is ****ed.

It's only a matter of time before the ants have their rebellion. :laughing:

Plankton 05-03-2015 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1584848)
I firmly believe that once a kid enters the mix though, it's the right thing to do.

I'm gonna strongly disagree with your statement here. I tried to the point of self destruction to include my daughters mother in a family setting, but in the end she only injected hatred, jealousy, and basically, just insanity into it. She was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, as well as having multiple personalities. She did things to my daughter and me in the 3 years she was with us that I really don't care to share here, so although your statement may be true in most situations, there are exceptions.

I've raised my daughter being a single father, and she's a beautiful, compassionate, and intelligent person, which probably wouldn't be the case if I had allowed her mother stay. Her mother has been a source of teaching for me though, mainly showing my daughter how unhealthy thought patterns, and self destructive behavior can destroy her life. We both treat her mother as a sort of science experiment, but I've always stressed to my daughter that no matter what her mother does to her, she still loves her very much, and is just "Not well", which she's accepted and embraced. It's what I had to inject into the dynamic of the whole situation in order to keep some sort of balance. Children need to know that the people who created them are at least halfway decent human beings even though they sometimes don't act like it.

Chula Vista 05-03-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1585311)
so although your statement may be true in most situations, there are exceptions.

Of course. I'm the result of one.

Freebase Dali 05-03-2015 12:11 PM

Not married. No kids. Am 34.

I don't really have the inclination to go through with it. I don't feel like there's anything there except an expectation from others. It's funny, we were just talking about this at work on Thursday when a potential hire came through to meet us and get a feel for the environment. We ended up talking about family, etc. and when my boss got to me, asking if I was ever going to shack up I just yelled "NOPE". It has become an automatic response now, but when I think about it, it's not as if I'm actively trying not to get married and have kids... it's that I'm not actively trying TO.

There isn't a sense of urgency. I don't feel like kids are a legacy and I don't feel an obligation to the human race.

Of course, I say that because I don't have kids, therefore I am on the other side of my own possible feelings about the matter in that I don't have them and therefore am not qualified to know how I'd feel about them in that context. But as far as marriage is concerned, apart from an act of commitment, I don't view it as much more than a societal tradition.

I'm open to it, I guess. I'm just not thinking about it as some sort of requirement or goal.
I'm sure I'll regret it on my death bed, should I never start a family of my own, but goddamn if I'm going to not live my entire life the way I want for the sake of having someone to hold my hand when I'm sh*tting the bed during my final hours in a rest home.


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