Sometimes it just kinda happens. That's how it was for us.

Yea, that's how I think it would happen for me if it ever happens.

I'm not pushing it, but if it makes sense when the option is on the table and circumstances agree, I wouldn't say no.

Not interested in marriage myself, though I'm not as opposed as I have been in the past. Same with kids - I'm a big fan of the child free life but being in a happy relationship paired with being a hopeless romantic and getting crazy hormonal every month can be challenging.

Wonder what it is about MusicBanter that attracts people that don't want to be married

Now don't attack me, I'm not saying it's weird or wrong or anything like that, just that it's not all that common and yet the majority of posts in here are from people who have happened to make that decision

It didn't work out for me the first time but I'd like to give it another shot someday.

We're maladjusted misanthropes, what do you expect?

As long as he's male...
And look like a princess.
This is where I may get into trouble, but will you PLEASE give it a rest with the hating on children? Your attitude really revolts me. I have a niece who has children of her own, and is struggling with them both being autistic, so you comparing her and people like her to cattle and breeders is really doing my head in.

We get it: you hate children. Just stop saying it will you? Don't forget, if your parents had thought like you do now you would not be here.

Thanks. I'd appreciate a little forbearance and consideration for those of us who don't consider children the devil's spawn. At least, not always.

We don't have children, but I feel like I'm about ready to.

In my eartly 30s, I can already feel my life getting old. I've done the parties, saw the movies, went to the places. I can listen to a new album, but it's gonna be album number gazillion which is not as fresh as listening to that first one. Having a kid just seems like one of the great adventures that will be a completely new experience to me and because being a parent is a situation that's always changing, I assume it'll be an adventure that doesn't get old fast.

I also think parents are more involved in the world, like in politics, because they are more invested in it through their kids. To me, things matter less over the years and I just feel myself getting more cynical. I don't like that.

I also know I'm just gonna love the **** out of my future kid. Sorry if that sounds cheesy (insert pedo joke if you want), but I want to experience my love for my child. Plus it'll be a biological mixture of me and my wife that we can unleash on the world, which is also awesome.

So people are allowed to talk about how great it is to have kids, yet when people talk about how they don't want kids, it's suddenly a problem?

No. when people talk about hating kids, about how horrible they are and call those who bear them names, THEN it's a problem. Talk all you like about not wanting kids, your preogative. But don't dismiss them out of hand as if nobody cares about them. You are both missing, deliberately I would say, some of the best things about kids and Lil is focussing only on the brats who come into your store. There's a lot more to kids than that, and you should both realise that and have a little consideration for those of us who actually like, or at least don't hate kids.

To refer to people who want or have kids as "cattle" with that sneering, I'm-better-than-you attitude Lil and yourself have is just disrespectful to the max, and it boils my blood.

Nobody's stopping you voicing your opinion, but when it turns out as hate-filled vitriol and sneering sarcasm as if all kids were little demons and all people who had kids were idiots, then we have a problem. All I'm asking for is that you understand, both of you, some of us love or like or can get along with kids, and your comments are not appreciated.

That's not what he's saying. TH didn't say that nobody's allowed to talk about how they don't want kids. Read the post again. He's stating that the attitude held towards people who have children or who want children is offensive, and frankly I agree. It's like when a religious person goes around saying that anyone who doesn't follow their ways is going to burn in Hell. It goes both ways but you can't change anyone's opinion on having kids or being child free.

Basically, the name calling and the holier than thou BS is what needs to stop.

10s of thousands of kids without homes and a serious world population problem and ya'll would rather have your own kids. Boo to all of you. I've always said I don't want kids but if ever found myself in a situation where it became a possibility I would never(*fingers crossed*) have my own..

I can choose to have my own child if I want to. Adoption is great and all but it's not for me.

I didn't say you couldn't. I just said boo to you. Which in all fairness is quite a nice insult. :D

Show me one single post where I said anything about not wanting kids. You guys are including me in the name calling because i'm with LiL, however I actually didn't say anything.

And on another note, if it's offensive, don't read it. It's just the internet. You don't have to read everything that everybody writes.

And parents aren't for orphans. But you do you.

So you didn't say that you'd chop your own dick off before you'd have a kid? Odd, cost that's what I read... Anyway it was mostly directed to Lil but since you are her partner and seem to hold the same views, it applies to you also. Mostly for her though. I said it already: her attitude sickens me. And this isn't jsut happening now: I've been listening to her crap about kids for months and months and trying not to say anything, but when she starts calling people cattle, that's ****ing it pal. I'm saying something.
And this is about the most stupid thing you've ever said. So you can post what you like, just nobody has to read it? So I skip over all your and her posts in case they offend me do I? Well here's a better idea: have a bit of consideration. I really don't think I'm asking too much here, but apparently you think I am. Have you bothered to think, either of you, that people here may have or want kids, and that your out-and-out hatred of children may offend them? You know, if this was any other group of people you were talking about you'd be slapped down. If you said this about blacks, Asians, jews, whatever, nobody would take it. So why do you think you can talk like that about children and not get called out on it??

I'm not sure if that's a lame joke or what.

Ha ha, what happened to this thread while I was gone?

http://i.imgur.com/tVDzOeg.gif

Not really in the mood for long winded pointless posts so I'll stop posting in here.

Yes and no. I mean, is your desire for your child to be of your own DNA really more important than an orphan having a real home?

Well if I say that I'd like to have one child of my own then I guess it is. Just like some people don't want children at all, I don't want to adopt one, it's not for me. If that makes me a heartless bitch, so be it. I've made my decision already.

At least you're not throwing up BS rationalizations. I mean, a lot of the "childless" could be considered heartless for leaving orphans to their misery as well.

I think selfish is more appropriate than heartless, but at least you own it. We all have things we are selfish about.

Honestly I'd rather let other people who cannot have children adopt.

There's more than enough to go around..

That's too bad but I still don't want to adopt. The adoption process in Canada is a long and difficult legal ordeal that I don't care to get involved in.

Yeh, I got that the first time you said it. I'm not trying to talk you into it.

It's a pain here too. Hell, it's a pain to adopt an animal from a pet store. It's unfortunate because I think it probably deters a lot of good people from doing it.

If a couple wants a child bad enough and can't have any of their own they'll put up with the the system until they get a child. I was adopted, my birth mother was adopted, and my brother has two adopted girls (he's gay). I understand it's not for everyone, but honestly, once a child is adopted I think the love just naturally grows. I don't get the insistence some people place on having a kid that looks like them. My brother is ugly as hell, I'm glad his kids have a different look.

Not knocking you BD, I'm just sayin'

There's an adoption agency slogan in there somewhere.

Yowza!

Christmas, 2001.

https://scontent-3.22773.fna.fbcdn.n...05&oe=55DF8460

Those your kids?

They look like a cute couple.

My kids. She'd be 17 and him 13 in this pic.

Goddamnit way to ruin a joke.

I think i'll give him a pass for not going along with the "my kids look like a cute couple" joke

Yea, it was sad and bad anyway. Chula's a good guy. I was just being a douche.

but you did.

and I still commend you for it because I'm looking for a good solution to my problem of having a uterus I don't need.

can I give it to the less fortunate/the people who want to hyperspawn like roaches?

Huh? What?

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1329591606

dude that's a link to your profile??

I'm so conflicted because I think there might be someone drunker than I on the boards tonight :laughing: