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explosions-in-my-pants 03-03-2006 11:26 AM

congrats for coming out.. you have guts. my cuz finally came out when he was 29 that was 5 years ago..

do your parents know your gay, if so how are they handling it?
i'm just wondering because my cuz, well his parents still deny he is gay whenever someone brings up setting him up or something, and they go "he's not gay he just has met the right girl, and then change the subject"

but why did you choose to tell us about you coming out?

judas_priest 03-03-2006 12:40 PM

yeah, I admire your courage too and respect you for coming out, Adidasss.:)

When did you need support Urban?:)

adidasss 03-03-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
but why did you choose to tell us about you coming out?

because i'm a sad pathetic loser and i consider MB to be my alternate family? i've shared pretty much everything of any importance that happened to me in the time i've been here, this was by far the biggest thing i had to go through, i couldn't keep it to myself.....and i was well proud of myself.

i've avoided making any refferences to my being gay on this forum ( aside from the gay jokes i'm prone to make ) simply because it's grown on me and i ( i tried explaining this to other people ), i didn't want you to make any assumptions about my character before you got to know me better....perhapse it's a stupid way to think, but i don't have much experience in dealing with this matter.

no, i've not told my parents and that's not likely to happen any time soon, my mother is a devout catholic and it would crush her, my father and brother are belligerant homophobics, no good could come of telling them, and there's no hope they would understand or be even remotely sympathetic.
my other two sisters ( yes, i have a rather large family ) i might tell some day, but to tell you the truth, my youngest sister is the only one i could safely assume would not completely freak out on hearing the news and the only one i can trust not to use this information against me ( i love all my sisters, but the two older ones can be vindictive bitches ).

i'm closest with my youngest sister, i've often said on this site that she's like my twin, she's only a year older and she's my best friend. the other ones, i don't get along with so well....and their views on homosexuality ( especially oldest sister's and brother's) are discouraging to say the least....we've all been brought up in the same conservative, catholic narrow minded comunity. i was born this way and was forced to deal with my prejudices, they were not. perhapse telling them one day will also force them to re-evaluate their views....

explosions-in-my-pants 03-03-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
because i'm a sad pathetic loser and i consider MB to be my alternate family? i've shared pretty much everything of any importance that happened to me in the time i've been here, this was by far the biggest thing i had to go through, i couldn't keep it to myself.....and i was well proud of myself.

good be proud of yourself.. but i'm not that proud of you, you came out to people over the internet. but i am pround that you came out to your sister.. that was a good move on your part.. i will be really proud once i read on here someday that you've come out to your parents.
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i've avoided making any refferences to my being gay on this forum ( aside from the gay jokes i'm prone to make ) simply because it's grown on me and i ( i tried explaining this to other people ), i didn't want you to make any assumptions about my character before you got to know me better....perhapse it's a stupid way to think, but i don't have much experience in dealing with this matter.
gay power!.. don't really care that your gay... i have gay friends and family.. (men) and doesn't bother me.. but it bothers my best friend (who is male and striaght) that i always talk and act arund him as if he were gay... but sometimes i guess it can't be that bad.. :) liek real life will&Grace.. only he's not gay
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no, i've not told my parents and that's not likely to happen any time soon, my mother is a devout catholic and it would crush her, my father and brother are belligerant homophobics, no good could come of telling them, and there's no hope they would understand or be even remotely sympathetic.
umm it probably would be a good idea to tell them at some point.. cause then your hiding from your family.. i mean you'd tell strangers and random friends that your gay but you choose not to tell the ones that raised you..
what if you start going out with some guy and fall inlove.. what then.. what if you want to marry, and adopt kiddies?
by not telling them your making your life more stressful.. if you don't tell them sure you;d never have to hear the fuss about you being gay and all that God bullshit about being gay.. but really are you willing to go the rest of your life hiding from telling your family who you really are?
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i'm closest with my youngest sister, i've often said on this site that she's like my twin, she's only a year older and she's my best friend. the other ones, i don't get along with so well....and their views on homosexuality ( especially oldest sister's and brother's) are discouraging to say the least....we've all been brought up in the same conservative, catholic narrow minded comunity. i was born this way and was forced to deal with my prejudices, they were not. perhapse telling them one day will also force them to re-evaluate their views...
you are who you are, and if you believe in god, don't believe all you hear and read in the BOOK!. cause well if god made you, he made you just the way you are.. Gay.. and whatever else your like.. so look at it like that.. clearly god made you this way for a reason or some sort.. so he must not hate you..

and to all those people out there, i do believe people are born gay and don't become it over time.

Fenixpunk 03-03-2006 01:17 PM

this is one of the deepest conversations ive seen here in along time.

TheBig3 03-03-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track
Why...because he has emotions and is human...not some robotic, middle class American Bostonian android. ;)

*contemplates whether there will be an imminent increase in warning points*

I would imagine it would be something of a relief, not something that would make you feel more ill than repression. Asking that question doesn't make me an andriod, I was getting at the fact that he shouldn't be ashamed of anything, simplistic backwater british stupidity.

Mama Booze 03-03-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
at 4am this morning, i sent my sister a message saying i'm gay ( probably the most difficult and gutsy thing i did in my life to date ).....3 hours later she responded....20 messages after that, she said it was cool....:))

a big shout out to all the people that suffered my relentless bitching about the subject during the past several months, i could not have done it if it weren't for you, for which i will be eternaly grateful...

Whoa, I didn't know you were ***, props to you :) :beer:

Todaaayy, I went to school, was tired all day, and in gym I found out a "special" person liked me...it's cute hehehe. Now I'm home.

right-track 03-03-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
I would imagine it would be something of a relief, not something that would make you feel more ill than repression. Asking that question doesn't make me an andriod, I was getting at the fact that he shouldn't be ashamed of anything, simplistic backwater british stupidity.

I understood your query to adidasss (notice the wink smiley).
As for the rest of your comment above, I'll let adidasss answer if he so chooses.

British is spelt with a capital 'B'.

adidasss 03-03-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
good be proud of yourself.. but i'm not that proud of you, you came out to people over the internet. but i am pround that you came out to your sister.. that was a good move on your part.. i will be really proud once i read on here someday that you've come out to your parents.

the point of the original post was not to come out to MB, but to share a profound moment in my life, "coming out" was just a side-effect, one of little importance at this point. all the people i really cared about i've already told throught msn.
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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
y umm it probably would be a good idea to tell them at some point.. cause then your hiding from your family.. i mean you'd tell strangers and random friends that your gay but you choose not to tell the ones that raised you..
what if you start going out with some guy and fall inlove.. what then.. what if you want to marry, and adopt kiddies?
by not telling them your making your life more stressful.. if you don't tell them sure you;d never have to hear the fuss about you being gay and all that God bullshit about being gay.. but really are you willing to go the rest of your life hiding from telling your family who you really are?

i suppose i am planning on telling them one day, but only after i get a job and move out....that way it will be their choice if they want to deal with it or cut me out of their life. sadly, at this point i have to say they would be more than willing to disown me and never speak to me again than to try and understand. their hatered goes that deep....
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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants
you are who you are, and if you believe in god, don't believe all you hear and read in the BOOK!. cause well if god made you, he made you just the way you are.. Gay.. and whatever else your like.. so look at it like that.. clearly god made you this way for a reason or some sort.. so he must not hate you..

this is something i probably shouldn't go into with you or anyone else that's not catholic, i think you couldn't understand what it means to be gay and catholic and the psychological repercussions of it. i'm 23, i didn't realize i'm gay yesterday, i've batteled with this issue for the most part of my adult life and have finally come close to a place where i can be happy with who and what i am, and that God will not frown on my happiness....but this is something i have to work on by myself....

adidasss 03-03-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track
I understood your query to adidasss (notice the wink smiley).
As for the rest of your comment above, I'll let adidasss answer if he so chooses.

British is spelt with a capital 'B'.

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Originally Posted by adidasss
it seems very much surreal, when you've kept that a secret and burried it deep inside for so long ( self protection was a big reason for that ), it being out is a lot to take

this was meant for big3

explosions-in-my-pants 03-03-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
i suppose i am planning on telling them one day, but only after i get a job and move out....that way it will be their choice if they want to deal with it or cut me out of their life. sadly, at this point i have to say they would be more than willing to disown me and never speak to me again than to try and understand. their hateread goes that deep....

this is something i probably shouldn't go into with you or anyone else that's not catholic, i think you couldn't understand what it means to be *** and catholic and the psychological repercussions of it. i'm 23, i didn't realize i'm *** yesterday, i've batteled with this issue for the most part of my adult life and have finally come close to a place where i can be happy with who and what i am, and that God will not frown on my happiness....but this is something i have to work on by myself....

my family are crazy catholic's... and i mean crazy.. :usehead:

right-track 03-03-2006 02:17 PM

Cos' I've been trying to reach my goal to long,
To give up on my journey now.
And believe that I'm on the right track,
Got to keep on steppin',
Never looking back,
I believe that I'm on the right track.
:thumb:

mosesandtherubberducky 03-03-2006 02:37 PM

Congrats adidasss, that had to take a lot of balls. Bungalow told me at school, but good job on stepping up.


*worships adidasss' superiority in saying things that were hard to say*:D

Laces Out Dan! 03-03-2006 02:46 PM

Adidas im super proud of you
Its hard for to talk to the people closest to me in my family about even small things...so the fact you did this is very couragous...So i just wanna say Im proud of you

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-03-2006 02:49 PM

I told my mother i`m hetrosexual today.

She told me to stop being such a twat

right-track 03-03-2006 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I told my mother i`m hetrosexual today.

She told me to stop being such a twat

I'm tri-sexual...




















...I'll try anything sexual.

Merkaba 03-03-2006 03:02 PM

Oh brother.



Da dum dum pshhhh;)

Cheese 03-03-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
at 4am this morning, i sent my sister a message saying i'm gay ( probably the most difficult and gutsy thing i did in my life to date ).....3 hours later she responded....20 messages after that, she said it was cool....:):yeah::)

a big shout out to all the people that suffered my relentless bitching about the subject during the past several months, i could not have done it if it weren't for you, for which i will be eternaly grateful...


Big ups to you my friend. Hold your head high and be proud of who you are:thumb:

mosesandtherubberducky 03-03-2006 06:15 PM

I think I will talk about my day. Today we had some wierd picture day deal for school, it wasn't for the year book but we had it. So I had to go first period to get my picture taken, and I get ****ing kicked out of it because I "wouldn't stop making faces". It isn't my fault I don't like posing or smiling for school pictures. But it was funny to see the reaction on people's faces when I told them. The rest of my day was pretty normal. And right now I am on a Noise Rock downloading Spree:):):):)

adidasss 03-03-2006 07:06 PM

thanks so much you guys *mushy moment*.... i've just come out of a 4 hour phone conversation, a deeply cathartic experience, she was/is more than cool about it and now i feel completely rediculous about being so scared to tell her. i shoud have known she would react wonderfully.....*is elated*

mosesandtherubberducky 03-03-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
thanks so much you guys *mushy moment*.... i've just come out of a 4 hour phone conversation, a deeply cathartic experience, she was/is more than cool about it and now i feel completely rediculous about being so scared to tell her. i shoud have known she would react wonderfully.....*is elated*


Thats nice, wanna say anything else? Today is a day of firsts. I was a forum bastard and you told your sister that you are gay.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 07:14 PM

I don't know what to think about this, being Catholic and all. But what feels right for me is to say that I think it's good that Adidasss was able to tell his family and friends that this is what he is. It takes alot of emotional pressure to come out with something so big.

Cheese 03-03-2006 08:28 PM

I guess the good thing about not being religious is that you do not have any archaic or plain hypocritical beliefs forced down your throat from an early age.

*thanks his parents for detesting religion*

bungalow 03-03-2006 08:35 PM

Cheeseman, I couldn't have said it better myself.
It is funny how the only one who isn't completely accepting, is the Catholic....

Laces Out Dan! 03-03-2006 08:43 PM

My parents are both religious and they've never forced anything on me religiously....and that has made me a better person...i can take good from the religion and leave the bad....and that being said i do feel strongly on some things just because i chose too...there was no forcing of religion down my throat..and i think the way that i picked up my religion is how it should be done....its soley based on the indavidual

Cheese 03-03-2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Cheeseman, I couldn't have said it better myself.
It is funny how the only one who is completely accepting, is the Catholic....

Thankyou. It p*sses me off how some people hide behind religion so they can hurl accusations and opinions at others and think they're untouchable.

bungalow 03-03-2006 09:04 PM

Exactly, I just noticed that I put "is completely accepting" when I meant "is not completely accepting"

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Cheeseman, I couldn't have said it better myself.
It is funny how the only one who isn't completely accepting, is the Catholic....

No duh, it's a Catholic belief.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeseman
Thankyou. It p*sses me off how some people hide behind religion so they can hurl accusations and opinions at others and think they're untouchable.

I want to know if you thought I was doing that?

Cheese 03-03-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Exactly, I just noticed that I put "is completely accepting" when I meant "is not completely accepting"

I gathered what you meant.............It must have been gods way;)

bungalow 03-03-2006 09:07 PM

Another christian belif is "it is a sin for a woman to illicit sexual desires in a man, knowingly, whom she isn't married to".....but still your user title says "I Make You Wet"

mosesandtherubberducky 03-03-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla
No duh, it's a Catholic belief.


Just because it is a catholic belief doesn't mean you have to believe it. It is also a catholic belief to not take part in sexual actions, and as I recall you have in some way or another.


EDIT: Alex you bastard you beat me to it.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeseman
I gathered what you meant.............It must have been gods way;)

No that's not what I meant, all I said was I didn't know how to feel about his situation, because of my faith. I didn't hurl opinions at anyone.

Bungalow you might want to stop right now because I'm not interested in being attacked for no reason at all. You don't know me so don't judge me from a user title.

Cheese 03-03-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla
No that's not what I meant, all I said was I didn't know how to feel about his situation, because of my faith. I didn't hurl opinions at anyone.

Bungalow you might want to stop right now because I'm not interested in being attacked for no reason at all. You don't know me so don't judge me from a user title.


Can't you just be happy for the guy and not let "it" cloud your opinion

bungalow 03-03-2006 09:12 PM

No reason at all? Attacking?

You said you arent totally accepting of adidasss' sexuality, because it is a catholic belif.
It is also considered a sin, in christianity, to provoke a man to have thoughts of adultery, but yet, you take pride in the fact that you do it, thereofre defying this belif, which you have broken, and looking down upon adidasss because he broke another.......

mosesandtherubberducky 03-03-2006 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla
No that's not what I meant, all I said was I didn't know how to feel about his situation, because of my faith. I didn't hurl opinions at anyone.

Bungalow you might want to stop right now because I'm not interested in being attacked for no reason at all. You don't know me so don't judge me from a user title.


If you are letting a set metality limit your ability to judge an option then you are rather sad. If something is holding you back, cast it aside, or modify it, or go around it to get past the mental barrier.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeseman
Can't you just be happy for the guy and not let "it" cloud your opinion

Where in my post was I not happy for him? I said I thought it was good he could tell his family and friends.

I feel like if ever the word Catholic is mentioned, I get everyone spazing at me. It really wasn't needed and if you guys are happy for Adidass then you will not spoil his happy time by getting a religious debate going over it.

Cheese 03-03-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla
Where in my post was I not happy for him? I said I thought it was good he could tell his family and friends.

I feel like if ever the word Catholic is mentioned, I get everyone spazing at me. It really wasn't needed and if you guys are happy for Adidass then you will not spoil his happy time by getting a religious debate going over it.

Fair enough, but why the inclusion of religion in the majority of your posting.

Scarlett O'Hara 03-03-2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeseman
Fair enough, but why the inclusion of religion in the majority of your posting.

Because I don't agree with homosexuality because it is against the faith I believe in. I'm not justifying anymore of it, as far as I'm concerned that's my opinion and if anyone else doesn't like it then tough bicky.

Cheese 03-03-2006 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla
Because I don't agree with homosexuality because it is against the faith I believe in. I'm not justifying anymore of it, as far as I'm concerned that's my opinion and if anyone else doesn't like it then tough bicky.

I don't agree with organised religion, but there's f*ck all I can do about it.

I feel it's against my faith and everything I believe.


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