Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2123563)

Yes.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123565)

You don't think he got any ass at all? He's handsome, confident, and was a prominent figure in a hate group. You don't think that Bellatrix chick or what ever her name is gave him head once? She seemed like the type of girl that ****s all her guy friends.

I am truly entertained by some of the stupidest things.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123539)

I find it weird that they have a mind reading hat that put all of the bigots into a group together. I also find it weird that nobody in that school has a CD player or Boombox or sumn. The one kid has a soccer poster but nobody in there walking around with a slayer shirt or something. I've heard wizard music. It sucks and it's corny. How has muggle music not taken over their culture?

Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2123556)

He is certainly not denying a genocide and hardly migitating responsibility.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2123567)

Remember the flying car in the first movie? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...L_Akr&usqp=CAU

That places HP to about 1965 to 70-ish, so no CDs, but yes, there's no hip guy in the school turning up with Beatles singles afaik.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123568)

My first sex dream was about Snape

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2123569)

No, he is. His ultimate point is that bad things happen in history but you can't let that rule your perception of the present. This has been the general view in my country of the American/Native American "problem" for a very long time and it is fostered by a significant majority of citizens from politicians to individual citizens to make it okay to sit on this land and not feel guilty.

The difference between this and the Holocaust is that the Holocaust is seen by the entire world as being a depraved, horrifying thing that can only be denied by fringe crazy people, and so the only people who deny it are fringe crazy people. But in America it's totally seen as reasonable to whitewash our history without being a fringe crazy so there isn't the same immediate condemnation of anyone who says "You know it wasn't as bad as they say." It's the same difference between being in a cult vs. being a Catholic. Both might believe in nonsense but the public perception makes being a Catholic totally reasonable.

And for it to be acceptable to the public it can't be as hardline as pure Holocaust denial. There has to be room for accepting that yes this thing happened and that is bad, but accepting this and that with "reason and nuance" allows for reason and nuance to let genocide slide in under the door unremarked. That is what Ant is doing.



Not really. A few decades ago it was totally acceptable to have Westerns showing Injun savages being put down by heroic cowboys. Now we just don't have those movies but we also don't have movies about what we did to them cause we don't like to talk about it. The best we have is mother****ing Dances with Wolves where we fetishize Injuns with a white savior to show how we can all be friends if you ignore how it all turns out in the end.

Americans are absolutely not trained by any political or cultural narrative to be triggered by Native American genocide. We're trained to just ignore it. If I went out and asked a hundred people on the street about their thoughts on Wounded Knee or the Trail of Tears I'd probably be greeted with 95 people asking me what Wounded Knee or the Trail of Tears are.

Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2123566)

LOL Snape is not handsome and what you call his confidence is a facade to hide his inferiority complex.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2123567)

Remember the flying car in the first movie? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...L_Akr&usqp=CAU

That places HP to about 1965 to 70-ish, so no CDs, but yes, there's no hip guy in the school turning up with Beatles singles afaik.

Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2123572)

I don't see clear evidence that the we can't let bad things rule our prexeption of the present thing was essentially what he was saying but if so then yes, I would agree with you. And about the influence of being an American, what you're talking about isn't what I meant. I was talking about you personally as an American who is aware of this being confronted a lot with genocide denial. Let's just leave it there.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123574)

That can be said about a lot of confident men, nobody will tell the difference not knowing him. Unless he's just a smarmy prick to everybody. Which even that get's confused as confidence. You really underestimate how many people get sucked into abusive relationships with people that act condescending like him.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123578)

Dumbledore was gay. He had a lover when he was young, but was celibate before he even became headmaster.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123580)

I knew he was gay but didn't know the rest.

Was it Hagrid?

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123579)

I think McGonagall would tranform into a horse and **** that centaur Firenze.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123585)

You gonna let that house elph talk out of turn?

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123587)

them winning the race to barbarity and being the most proficient at acts of violence and dominance,

has been reframed as a moral superiority

it's important to know history so that we can deconstruct this

ok I yield my time

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123584)

the point isn't that Europeans are uniquely evil

it's that Europeans are not uniquely civilized

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123590)

I believe your question of "where be the ****ing yo" was answered in the book through magical staircases or something preventing you from entering the wrong dorm

this raises some interesting questions about non-cis gendered individuals in the wizarding world and I'm sure Rowling has some enlightening and respectful takes on that

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123571)

2nd movie and the first book took place in 1998. Dudly had computer games in it so there would be CDs.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123575)

They dance to Nick Cave in HP#4

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123577)

... but Hagrid is straight as far as I know.
Hagrid definitely ****ed McGonagall at some point.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123578)

Dumbledore was gay. He had a lover when he was young, but was celibate before he even became headmaster.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2123602)

J.K. Rowling said he's gay. I don't think they're in the books.

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123605)

Nope, actually it is implied in book 7 after he dies, when his biography/obituary is published in the Daily Prophet

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2123609)

I wanted Dumbledore to be my dad so I was really devastated when he died and read those chapters over and over trying to find the punchline lol

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123625)

you ever at work and then suddenly have to be in shock about how ****ty your life is

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123629)

I blast Reatards (Teenage Hate Machine) am stoned and now make out with this girl in the office between customers

so you know I basically have the exact 16 y/o job I deserve I guess

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2123459)

it's a bit like destroying the food supply

then saying the cause of death was malnutrition in the population, yes but c'mon