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~~MicShazam~~ · 05-03-2018, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

And we all know how things worked out for David Foster Wallace...

He was clinically depressed, which is something I'm not suggesting you can deal with any other way than seeing a brain doctor.

But yeah. Ironic. I take a lot of inspiration for how to live my life from a guy who hung himself.

The Batlord · 05-03-2018, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

He was clinically depressed, which is something I'm not suggesting you can deal with any other way than seeing a brain doctor.

But yeah. Ironic. I take a lot of inspiration for how to live my life from a guy who hung himself.

Maybe that says something about how your brain is not your playground but that you are your playground for your brain.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2018, 01:17 PM

Signifying Rappers: Rap and Race in the Urban Present

anyone who names their book after a Schoolly D song deserves post suicide props

Trollheart · 05-03-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Generally if you quote someone and post right under it...

I was referring to your comment, then using a catch-all "you" to ... yeah, okay. It could have been misinterpreted, as it was with you. But I explained what I mean so now you know, yes?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I honestly don't know how I'd measure up to you but I imagine you'd be right, but those obsessive thought loops are impossible. Your brain is obsessed with a thing and you know it's dumb, you know you should let it go, but if your brain was listening to your brain you'd be a millionaire right now, and of course your brain is never obsessed with things that will help you, just **** about how that person you're not sure how you feel about said something that got to you even though it's fine IT'S ****ING FINE you've heard it before they didn't even mean anything or maybe they did mean something but it was just an off the cuff remark it's not even accurate maybe it's accurate but it's not a revelation you know what they're talking about did they say that because they secretly hate you maybe it was obvious that they hate you but you dismissed it because you didn't want to feel paranoid you know most people don't have these constantly aggressive interpersonal interactions but if you were you and people didn't hate you then they might still react like this cause it's just the way this **** goes but of course maybe every single person on Earth wishes you would die, so whatevs. It'll all work out I guess.

That is one long-ass sentence without even one piece of punctuation!

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Actually, I kept it secret until a few months ago despite it being planned years in advance and literally nobody else on the planet knows about it except you guys because I don't want anybody to stop me if I decide to do it.

It's obvious, as I already pointed out, that I don't want to die I just want **** to get better, but I'm not going to wait forever on that hope. Then I might become you.

Why I opened up about it here when I've never opened up about it anywhere else? I don't know, maybe because I know people here weren't going to give a ****. I've never threatened to kill myself before. I only ever brought it up on here when I was feeling low or impatient as more of a cry for help rather than attention. Contradictory to the fact that I knew nobody here would give a ****.

But you can go ahead and assume as if your personal opinion matters on the situation. I guess focusing on hating others distracts you from how much you hate yourself. I'm just glad that as self loathing as most of us are, we haven't become the miserable **** that you are.

Yeah, we do care, dude. Some of us. I don't want to think I ignored a cry for help, and I certainly wouldn't want you killing yourself at such an early age. Your decision, obviously, but anything we can do...

~~MicShazam~~ · 05-03-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Maybe that says something about how your brain is not your playground but that you are your playground for your brain.

I am my brain.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Signifying Rappers: Rap and Race in the Urban Present

anyone who names their book after a Schoolly D song deserves post suicide props

I've got it on my shelf, but still haven't read it. Wallace's writings are the sole reason I actually give a damn about tennis. I used to care about zero sports of any kind until I read his essay collections.

Maybe after reading his book on hip hop I'll be all about that stuff.

The Batlord · 05-03-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That is one long-ass sentence without even one piece of punctuation!

Duh.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I am my brain.

Nah. You are a high level process within your brain, but your brain is still doing all kinds of things otherwise. I would never assume that my consciousness was the entirety of my brain's processes.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Duh.

Nah. You are a high level process within your brain, but your brain is still doing all kinds of things otherwise. I would never assume that my consciousness was the entirety of my brain's processes.

I still like his response: I am my brain.

Even IF it’s a bit of an oversimplification I get what he meant and I agree.

You get too far away from that and you start getting religious.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-03-2018, 02:30 PM

So as I was saying, Frown and Hawk made good posts regarding suicide.

Where do our forumistas stand on the issue? It's been long enough since the suicide thread was asked to ask the new regulars.

I have always been on the personal choice side of the debate. A person cannot choose to be born, so I don't see why they shouldn't have a choice in their death. If it's your body it's your rules, surely if you have one right it would be the right to end your own life.

Now if someone I loved told me they were suicidal, I'm not gonna just go along with it as it's their choice, I would try to be there for them, help them and stop them from doing it. This is because I would miss them and be hurt if they died but also because death is permanent, and shouldn't be rushed. People who have gone through suicidal feelings, often will say there was a time after that when they were glad they didn't do it and that for me is the key, the reason to hold on. By killing yourself you're taking away the opportunity for things to get better and that needs to be seriously thought about. There is no going back.

It's selfish to say that it's selfish, that's already been posted and I agree with it. For those guys who think suicide is selfish, would you say a relative who smokes and then dies of lung cancer is selfish? We all know smoking kills you, when they die have they not been selfish by knowingly killing themselves albeit over a longer period of time? If you're going to throw in addiction as a mitigating factor in smoking then accept the mitigating factors involved in suicide, for example mental illness and lack of rational thought.

I think that the real tragedy is that people can reach such a low point they actually see suicide as an option. That is heartbreaking to me.

I dunno just some thoughts while I'm watching the snooker.

Hawkins is winning btw.

grindy · 05-03-2018, 03:05 PM

No.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

you can also be said to be the universe experiencing itself

not religious, just perspective

Church

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	So as I was saying, Frown and Hawk made good posts regarding suicide. Where do our forumistas stand on the issue? It's been long enough since the suicide thread was asked to ask the new regulars. I have always been on the personal choice side of the debate. A person cannot choose to be born, so I don't see why they shouldn't have a choice in their death. If it's your body it's your rules, surely if you have one right it would be the right to end your own life. Now if someone I loved told me they were suicidal, I'm not gonna just go along with it as it's their choice, I would try to be there for them, help them and stop them from doing it. This is because I would miss them and be hurt if they died but also because death is permanent, and shouldn't be rushed. People who have gone through suicidal feelings, often will say there was a time after that when they were glad they didn't do it and that for me is the key, the reason to hold on. By killing yourself you're taking away the opportunity for things to get better and that needs to be seriously thought about. There is no going back. It's selfish to say that it's selfish, that's already been posted and I agree with it. For those guys who think suicide is selfish, would you say a relative who smokes and then dies of lung cancer is selfish? We all know smoking kills you, when they die have they not been selfish by knowingly killing themselves albeit over a longer period of time? If you're going to throw in addiction as a mitigating factor in smoking then accept the mitigating factors involved in suicide, for example mental illness and lack of rational thought. I think that the real tragedy is that people can reach such a low point they actually see suicide as an option. That is heartbreaking to me. I dunno just some thoughts while I'm watching the snooker. Hawkins is winning btw.