Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

Yeah that's why it's so insidious. A CEO can't afford to deal with the bottom rung as if they're people so they have to exist merely as numbers on graphs and reports, dehumanizing anyone below a certain level of their awareness, and anyone below hoping move up that ladder have to internalize to greater and greater degrees the idea that employees below them are numbers and not people and therefore disposable. I'm not willing to adopt that mentality.

I don't particularly care for most people but that doesn't mean I'm a sociopath who doesn't care how my actions affect them. My misanthropy softens with proximity and duration to others and while I still have little desire to be around them for long periods of time or learn the details of their lives it still bothered the hell out of me when my co-worker who'd had a c-section had to go back to work after like a week off. How much more emotionally dead would I have to become to be that guy who enforced that?

Originally Posted by jwb

My sister manages a fast food place. She just got her bachelor's and is applying for her own franchise. She's far from a sociopath. She has more morals than I do. She just wants a better life for her and her daughter.

I'm not even saying rise through the ranks at BK. I worked at Walmart and I had an opportunity to get fast tracked for management and I turned it down for similar reasons. But don't write off the prospect of success completely, man. I believe that mentality is a trap. Some of the more cynical socialist types would ironically rather you stay a wage slave so long as that keeps you loyal to the cause. That's the real reason success and wealth are frowned upon by those circles imo.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yep

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

At the store level you can still be a human being. Rising above that requires a different level of company loyalty and that mentality bleeds down into the store level as well. Shift managers tend to be fine but even becoming store manager tends to either make you an ******* or make you stop giving a **** and stagnate.

Originally Posted by jwb

like I said she's the manager of the restaurant not a shift manager.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

There are good ones but it's the level that starts to separate the people with a real sense of themselves and people who will grow to be *******s. After that I'm hard pressed to think of any mid-level management who wasn't either a ****bag or dead/dying inside.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Sad but true. Yes.