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Anteater · 02-08-2020, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

he's saying we denied the native genocide

All I said was the vast majority of them died off by diseases which afaik is a mainstream scientific/historical estimate.

Meanwhile, in Battys world praising Hitler is all kosher as long as you acknowledge his body count.

Everyone likes to cite Hitler as the ultimate Big Bad but he's really just a warm up act to Joseph Kony.

Lucem Ferre · 02-08-2020, 04:48 PM

I wonder if Ant has ever sent a gal a picture of an empty egg carton before. I bet he has.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yup. Not distorting reality to allow yourself to feel however you want to feel about genocide makes jokes about genocide just jokes and not propaganda.

be specific. What did I distort, Hitler fanboy?

The Batlord · 02-08-2020, 05:36 PM

By trivializing the destruction of Native civilizations and enveloping of their lands by Europeans you're distorting the reality and importance of what happened so that you can hand wave the past and "just get on with it" like a good, forward thinking Westerner.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2020, 05:41 PM

That's all very vague and subjective language.

A Holocaust dernier might for instance doubt the number people killed, the existence of gas chambers, etc.

Did I say anything that was actually ahistorical or are you just saying that I didn't show enough reverence?

Anteater · 02-08-2020, 05:43 PM

@Bat

That whole anarcho-nihilist schtick certainly didn't last long. I thought everything and everyone sucked and nothing mattered?

The Batlord · 02-08-2020, 05:48 PM

I'm saying that you're essentially denying the Holocaust because you're trivializing a historical event to keep moral questions at a distance. The mechanics of denying the Holocaust and trivializing the Native American holocaust are going to be necessarily different just the same as German fascism is going to be different from American fascism but you're obscuring the forest by looking at the trees. It's still trivializing the non-in group to bolster the in-group.

The Batlord · 02-08-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

@Bat

That whole anarcho-nihilist schtick certainly didn't last long. I thought everything and everyone sucked and nothing mattered?

Of course nothing matters and you can all suck my dong but I'm not a robot. **** fascists unless they dress well.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2020, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm saying that you're essentially denying the Holocaust because you're trivializing a historical event to keep moral questions at a distance. The mechanics of denying the Holocaust and trivializing the Native American holocaust are going to be necessarily different just the same as German fascism is going to be different from American fascism but you're obscuring the forest by looking at the trees. It's still trivializing the non-in group to bolster the in-group.

by making jokes or by saying that most of then died off by diseases?

Pretty sure saying "Hitler >>>>>" and that America never produced anything as awesome is literally trivializing the actual Holocaust.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Of course nothing matters and you can all suck my dong but I'm not a robot. **** fascists unless they dress well.

You remind me of the "nihilists" from the big Lebowski

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That's all very vague and subjective language. A Holocaust dernier might for instance doubt the number people killed, the existence of gas chambers, etc. Did I say anything that was actually ahistorical or are you just saying that I didn't show enough reverence?