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OccultHawk · 12-18-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

^Dismissive blanket statements are larger sign of somebody who can't think for them self.

*themselves

Lucem Ferre · 12-18-2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

I dont think it's at all drastic, if something never exists it never suffers or imposes suffering onto others. I've made the point many times over the years, I'm staunchly anti. I think procreation is unethical.

But I would never tell another person what to do with their body, I'd just judge them for it.

Pretty much anything you do could impose suffering so with that point of view everything is unethical.

Lisnaholic · 12-18-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

I think it's pretty arrogant to bring a sentient being into this world without their consent and then force them to go through life because they think it'd be nice to have a kid.

^ When I read this sentence, it immediately made me wonder if there's a way to bring a sentient being into this world with its consent. Please advise.

I'm sure many of us remember ladyislingering's monster thread, and all the controversy that it sparked off. I'm hoping no-one is keen to relive that debate, so although I'm putting a link, I'm also asking, Please don't add to the 48 pages of posts that it already has:- LiL's Many Benefits of a Child-free Life:https://www.musicbanter.com/current-...free-life.html

I know some of you here have had terrible first-hand experience of abusive or irresponsible (step)parents. I can't imagine how awful some of those scenarios that you lived through must have been - but let's not forget that there are also some good guys around. Personally, I applaud [MERIT] if he's entertaining his son for the weekend - and when he mentioned Lego, he reminded me of many contented hours that I have spent, first as a child, then as a father playing with Lego. Some music to listen to, some casual conversation and a box of Lego to share; if you're lucky, this is the stuff that good memories are made of.

WWWP · 12-18-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Pretty much anything you do could impose suffering so with that point of view everything is unethical.

Now you're getting it

Lucem Ferre · 12-18-2018, 09:58 AM

There are step dads that don't abuse their kids. There is a reason why inductive reasoning is considered a logical fallacy.

Lucem Ferre · 12-18-2018, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

Now you're getting it

Okay. I'm not going to judge somebody for having a kid because of the chance it experiences or causes misery though. Just as I don't want somebody to judge me for not wanting kids.

**Frownland** · 12-18-2018, 10:02 AM

There are great parents all around but that really doesn't affect the morality of having a child.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-18-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If you use these terms you can’t think for yourself:

Snowflake
Edge
Cringe

More to come

Nothing wrong with the last one tbh.

Oriphiel · 12-18-2018, 10:04 AM

I like the fact that new people are being born every day, each making their own contribution to this crazy world, even if most of them just end up as worldbuilding extras.

Keeps things interesting.

So people suffer. Boo hoo. Suffering is actually awesome and underrated, and results in some of the best art. I say the more suffering, the better. **** voluntary extinction. Let's spread our filth all over the ****ing galaxy and then jerk off to the hilarious results.

Lucem Ferre · 12-18-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

There are great parents all around but that really doesn't affect the morality of having a child.

The moral implications of having a child really don't exist. It's not bad, it's not good. It just is. Until you add other factors into it. Having a child doesn't predetermine an immoral amount of suffering. The conditions the child is raised in does. Even then, lets say the suffering of the child creates a character who does a great part in ending a particular immoral affliction in the world. What is the morality of that?

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