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The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Lol, not even close. People from Spain, Portugal, England, etc. came to the North American continent. They traded goods and food. These simple actions guaranteed that smallpox was going to spread. There was no malice or ill intent behind it.

Behind people just coming to a new place? No. But that is one sliver of the story that you are choosing to focus on in order to perpetrate the same kind of cowardly white washing of history as Holocaust deniers and Confederate apologists.

You wouldn't say any of this **** face to face with a Native American. The only reason you feel comfortable saying it is because you presume your audience to be a bunch of white people. White privilege at its most pathetic.

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The fact that individual racists wanted to weaponize smallpox several centuries later doesn't change this.

Yeah just a few bad apples, you ****ing Nazi.

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Other than Europeans staying in Europe and nobody leaving their countries of origin, how would you have changed the course of history to avoid these kinds of disease outbreaks?

Pretending this is about disease outbreaks makes you a pussy. If Europeans had come to the Americas with open hearts desiring nothing more than to trade and build relations with the Americans but tragically caused all of these deaths through disease and then tried to help rather than swallowing all of their land this would be a much different conversation.

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There were still around 15 million cases of smallpox every year circa 1967 or so. So I guess the "genocide" is slowing down?

No that's just your brain.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 03:32 PM

Individual racists. FFS.

It's clearly noted that while the effectiveness of the infected blankets that they absolutely did give to natives is questionable, the massacres and starvation caused to the natives was extremely integral in the spread of smallpox.

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 03:35 PM

You say it's one sliver of the story and then jump to white privilege like some kind of lunatic. Are you Native American now? Are you going to pretend to be offended about a discussion about smallpox transmission for the sake of some made up Native American audience in your mind? Ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Individual racists. FFS.

It's clearly noted that while the effectiveness of the infected blankets that they absolutely did give to natives is questionable, the massacres and starvation caused to the natives was extremely integral in the spread of smallpox.

And that's fine to note and discuss, but that's not what you led with nor was it something that came up in conversation.

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 03:41 PM

**Marie Monday** · 06-20-2020, 03:43 PM

Who says he's pretending? He has a point. You do only talk about the sliver of the story that supports your argument. Again:

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie

it does not take control and direction of a disease to notice that it kills others and not you, and to abuse that observation. I don't know if this is what happened, but even if it didn't the genocide was horrible enough

The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You say it's one sliver of the story and then jump to white privilege like some kind of lunatic. Are you Native American? Are you going to pretend to be offended at nothing for the sake of some made up Native American audience in your mind? Ridiculous.

I am offended, you moral vacuum. This **** is disgusting. You assume that because you're not bothered by something that no one can be bothered by it and therefore it's all just virtue signaling? This ****, both what actually happened and your denial of it, are an oily, festering puss on the underside of the human race that makes me feel empty because if this **** happens and we learn nothing from it then what worth does the human race have? It makes me feel more alone than ever, surrounded by nihilistic nothingness where the only things to reach out and grab hold of are covered in filth.

Anteater · 06-20-2020, 03:45 PM

Lol, he's one step away from pulling an Elizabeth Warren on me.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I am offended, you moral vacuum. This **** is disgusting. You assume that because you're not bothered by something that no one can be bothered by it and therefore it's all just virtue signaling? This ****, both what actually happened and your denial of it, are an oily, festering puss on the underside of the human race that makes me feel empty because if this **** happens and we learn nothing from it then what worth does the human race have? It makes me feel more alone than ever, surrounded by nihilistic nothingness where the only things to reach out and grab hold of are covered in filth.

How can I interpret it as anything other than virtue signaling when you are literally getting upset over history discussions. I never once said it was okay that millions of Native Americans died. It was ****ing horrible. But the fact you need me to explicitly say that because your constantly looking to stroke your grievances is annoying me. Everyone is so damn worried about offending someone else here that we can't even bring up an Aztec invasion scenario without someone having an aneurysm. Good grief.

The Batlord · 06-20-2020, 03:47 PM

You never told me she mailed you a dog turd.

**Marie Monday** · 06-20-2020, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Lol, he's one step away from pulling an Elizabeth Warren on me.

You're only proving his point by saying that

Lucem Ferre · 06-20-2020, 03:54 PM

God Ant is so ****ing phony that it hurts.