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Lucem Ferre · 06-21-2020, 11:14 PM

Beats my "God hates flags".

Which is actually true. I'm pretty sure flags count as false idols.

Lucem Ferre · 06-21-2020, 11:14 PM

I know twitter was doing "All Birthdays Matter" on Trump's Bday and sending Obama birthday cards.

Norg · 06-22-2020, 12:12 AM

I bought my 1st teapot and sugar

grindy · 06-22-2020, 12:20 AM

I'll never forget my first sugar.

Psy-Fi · 06-22-2020, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg

I bought my 1st teapot and sugar

Brown Betty?

~~jwb~~ · 06-22-2020, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

China was kinda in a state of being ran over militarily and economically dominated prior to Mao

it would be like if one of the native tribe leaders decided they were gonna start making muskets instead of growing maize

So imperialism justifies mass murder of your own population.

There was another country that started out under the imperial thumb of another superpower....

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

China had 2000 years of frequent famines and starvation before Mao.

Now they have a food surplus.

Wow, a food surplus you say, that would be impressive like 200 years ago.

And I always hear people saying famines happened before... Which is true in both Russia and China... But 1) these famines were artificially inflated by state policy and 2) I don't think it was at all common for famines on that scale to happen. If I'm wrong about that then correct me.

rostasi · 06-22-2020, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norg

I bought my 1st teapot and sugar

These drug references always confuse me.

~~jwb~~ · 06-22-2020, 06:53 AM

Are you saying it wasn't justified, then? Because your previous comment and many others you've made seem like you think the great leap forward was the right move.

As for cold war propanganda, that cuts both ways. But I'm not sure what I'm saying that isn't factually correct. Mao and Stalin starved their own populations both for military and economic reasons. That has procured them some advantages strategically (more
notably in the USSR than in China) but it is nonetheless mass murder.

I'm not like your friends in this thread who think the method is irrelevant; I think Hitler was worse because I do see a distinction in rounding people into camps and systemically executing them. That was the very distinction that was being downplayed by your side earlier in the conversation.

Psy-Fi · 06-22-2020, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Idk if I’d **** with anything that might be construed as a BLM appropriation

Actually I know I wouldn’t

I’m hoping I don’t have to go outside at all on the 4th

It'll look good hanging next to his "All Lives Matter" flag.

Anteater · 06-22-2020, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Are you saying it wasn't justified, then? Because your previous comment and many others you've made seem like you think the great leap forward was the right move.

As for cold war propanganda, that cuts both ways. But I'm not sure what I'm saying that isn't factually correct. Mao and Stalin starved their own populations both for military and economic reasons. That has procured them some advantages strategically (more
notably in the USSR than in China) but it is nonetheless mass murder.

I'm not like your friends in this thread who think the method is irrelevant; I think Hitler was worse because I do see a distinction in rounding people into camps and systemically executing them. That was the very distinction that was being downplayed by your side earlier in the conversation.

Lol, why are you expecting consistency from the Sob Squad. In a different discussion I got lectured about how "Property is theft" no matter what and then told in the last discussion here that somehow Native Americans also own land and that land ownership is a thing (even though it is likely that those early tribes seized said land from some variant of neanderthal). They don't want to have a real discussion about history because despite bemoaning the overall ****tiness of humanity and how bad everyone is, they still want to put the disenfranchised on a moral pedestal when it's convenient in a discussion at the expense of what's actually being discussed (like the intent of traders and merchants who were responsible for the spread of smallpox).

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Are you saying it wasn't justified, then? Because your previous comment and many others you've made seem like you think the great leap forward was the right move. As for cold war propanganda, that cuts both ways. But I'm not sure what I'm saying that isn't factually correct. Mao and Stalin starved their own populations both for military and economic reasons. That has procured them some advantages strategically (more notably in the USSR than in China) but it is nonetheless mass murder. I'm not like your friends in this thread who think the method is irrelevant; I think Hitler was worse because I do see a distinction in rounding people into camps and systemically executing them. That was the very distinction that was being downplayed by your side earlier in the conversation.