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Nah, you'd whine about that **** too.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2149437)

post-punk DJ

write essays on Mao

unfortunately djing is dead

I'm legit asking say you had 100 k to start a business. Any ideas?

Oh god **** owning a business. That **** would stress me the **** out and give me an ulcer.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2149388)

elph - there’s no point in winning a war if you’re not fighting for the right side

But that's the problem. He's not sincerely fighting for any side. It seems to me like his talk about working class people and Art and his rich parents betrays that his whole progressive stance is mostly an attempt to distance himself from the working class, just like his parents did probably (just by a different method). I'm fond of Elph, but I don't trust his motives one bit.

Ps Bat, sorry about that manager guy. What a piece of ****.

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2149457)

I don’t think you have a ****ing clue what working graveyard in Texas city gas station is like. How ****ing scary and gritty and in the trenches that is. elph is a ****ing combat veteran. He’s earned the right to a bit of inconsistency. He proves himself every second he spends in there exposed and vulnerable. So I’m not hearing that hot take on elph one bit. He doesn’t have to be a cheerleader; he’s on the ****ing team.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2149458)

my parents are technically working class

the proletariat is anyone who works for a living, and they also have typical working class values

I do favor a counter-culture approach more than class politics at this point though, yes

You don’t even need to answer to that bourgeois bull****

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2149463)

my fellow coworkers are all immigrants and gas station for life

one of them told me he voted Trump because black people are crazy

another tells me the homeless should get a job lol

There’s no point in even bothering to disagree. Just methodically redirect their hatred toward the rich. They’re already half way there because they got the hate. They’re pre-weaponized. Those mother****ers are loaded guns. They just need to be pointed in a new direction.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2149459)

Yes, everyone who works a **** job is a class conscious Marx soldier. That's totally how it works.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2149467)

Yes, everyone who works a **** job is a class conscious Marx soldier. That's totally how it works.

They are. They just don’t know it yet.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2149458)

They're not, that is not what is meant by working class and you know it.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2149459)

What Bat said to this. I don't claim to know what it's like, but that's not even relevant. I'm criticising the motives behind his views, not his life, and no one 'earns' the right to be exempt from that criticism by having a gritty job. If you refuse to see beyond rich vs poor and don't allow criticism of anyone in the poor camp we can't move forward, just like we can't move forward if you distance yourself from the working class