Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

**Frownland** · 08-15-2017, 07:22 AM

Because the internet shows people that the world is scary and causes them to rely on and further invest in the safe industrialized world that they know. Its like a Coen brothers movie.

Zhanteimi · 08-15-2017, 07:23 AM

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The Batlord · 08-15-2017, 07:44 AM

So they're the Americans of the Orient?

Zhanteimi · 08-15-2017, 07:46 AM

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djchameleon · 08-15-2017, 10:11 AM

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The Japanese use the internet for J-things. No one here investigates the outside world.

Since I'm 20 years out of date with my info. This scene isn't around anymore?

Which I'm sure they used the internet to get hip hop fashion tips from.

Oh and this trend.

The Batlord · 08-15-2017, 10:22 AM

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I'd shit myself if I saw those goblins walking down the street.

riseagainstrocks · 08-15-2017, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I wonder if gender favored personality traits have more to do with conditioning people into thinking they have to behave a certain way because of their gender and perhaps that can add to why people feel like they were born in the wrong gender because they were conditioned to believe that their personality is feminine or masculine even though they physically are not.

I suspect this is the largest factor. Hell, we socialize infants to fit into existing worldviews of gender identity (pink/blue).

The Google guy went way too far in his analysis. If he stopped at, "we socialize women to be less interested in STEM, therefore, mandating equal representation will likely lead to less optimal outcomes for Google," then I'd say he has a valid point. He made the mistake of making it a biological deficiency, which only requires one counter-example to expose as sophistry (i.e. all women are biologically lesser than men in STEM fields. Oh really, meet Marie Curie, Rachel Carson, the inspirations for Hidden Figures, etc.)

He 100% deserved to be fired. He essentially called his female and minority coworkers inferior. This was an HR matter.

**Frownland** · 08-15-2017, 10:42 AM

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I suspect this is the largest factor. Hell, we socialize infants to fit into existing worldviews of gender identity (pink/blue).

The Google guy went way too far in his analysis. If he stopped at, "we socialize women to be less interested in STEM, therefore, mandating equal representation will likely lead to less optimal outcomes for Google," then I'd say he has a valid point. He made the mistake of making it a biological deficiency, which only requires one counter-example to expose as sophistry (i.e. all women are biologically lesser than men in STEM fields. Oh really, meet Marie Curie, Rachel Carson, the inspirations for Hidden Figures, etc.)

Ja, I thought it was weird how he added that culture caveat but failed to explore it whenever he proposed a trait as biologically enforced.

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He 100% deserved to be fired. He essentially called his female and minority coworkers inferior. This was an HR matter.

Not to mention PR. Distributing the manifesto to the company and sending it to Gizmodo is a dumb move that I would have fired him for regardless of his stance. Also, considering that Google's target audience is the youngins, the stance he took is a double whammy.

Zhanteimi · 08-15-2017, 06:50 PM

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The Batlord · 08-15-2017, 06:56 PM

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Japanese fashion summer 2017

Tell me they're not becoming boring. It'll break the West's heart.

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