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Zhanteimi 11-07-2016 06:28 PM

****ing weeaboos. Scum of the ****ing earth.

r/japancirclejerk

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766848)
I can stand by this. But also there is that one story where they chopped the guys whole penis off by accident and the parents decided to raise him as a girl... and then he committed suicide as an adult after learning of this. But like I said. I have no ****ing clue where to stand on anything anymore.

lol wait, what? That's ****ing wild. I understand the arguement Goof is making I guess, but as someone who is glad he was circumcised, I have no idea with the process.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1766850)
lol wait, what? That's ****ing wild. I understand the arguement Goof is making I guess, but as someone who is glad he was circumcised, I have no idea with the process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:32 PM

So his suicide had nothing to do with his dick getting cut off, but that is a ****ed up situation nonetheless.

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:33 PM

There's plenty of benefits to having a foreskin: The Foreskin Advantage: Benefits Enjoyed by Males who are Intact (not circumcised)

Key 11-07-2016 06:33 PM

Anyone with a foreskin is less of a man. That's what my mom says anyway.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:34 PM

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Reimer said that Dr. Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role. Reimer said that, as a child, he had to get "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks". Reimer said that Dr. Money forced David, in another sexual position, to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Reimer said that Dr. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Reimer said that Dr. Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. Dr. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".
Wait, wait, wait. WHAT THE ****.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:38 PM

Tbh those arguements don't change my opinion in the slightest. As far as talking about "health" benefits, I know a guy who had an infection and had to be circumcised at the age of 8 or 9. I just don't see enough of a reason to for one or the other to be better.

djchameleon 11-07-2016 06:38 PM

CHOP IT OFF! My kid's definitely getting the snip snip.

When it comes down to it, it's really just a preference thing but those that have it claim that it's the end of the world not to have it and vice versa on the other side.

It's not that big of a deal in my eyes.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:39 PM

No offense goofle but I'm not too sure about your source either.

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Every year boy die from the complications of circumcision, a fact that the American circumcision industry ignores, obscures, or downplays

Key 11-07-2016 06:40 PM

Every year boy die.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:40 PM

They have sources below. I didn't bother to check with the sources, but they are there if you're curious.

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1766857)
CHOP IT OFF! My kid's definitely getting the snip snip.

When it comes down to it, it's really just a preference thing but those that have it claim that it's the end of the world not to have it and vice versa on the other side.

It's not that big of a deal in my eyes.

Great, trauma and the several months of increased paranoia and pain is the only negative that will come of it. Ignoring the knowledge that your parents cared so little for you that they thought cutting your genitals as a child was a good idea.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1766859)
Every year boy die.

Exactly.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1766861)
Great, trauma and the several months of increased paranoia and pain is the only negative that will come of it. Let alone the knowledge that your parents cared so little for you that they thought cutting your genitals as a child was a good idea.

Yeah, no.

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:42 PM

Those of you who are grateful for your current circumcisions, do you think you would elect to have the procedure done if you still had it as an adult?

Key 11-07-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1766864)
Those of you who are grateful for your current circumcisions, do you think you would elect to have the procedure done if you still had it as an adult?

If the situation erected, I'd say yes.

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766858)
No offense goofle but I'm not too sure about your source either.

Some children do die from it. I don't know the exact statistic because it's not something anybody cares to document.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1766864)
Those of you who are grateful for your current circumcisions, do you think you would elect to have the procedure done if you still had it as an adult?

Well, see the difference here is that memories and object permanence aren't even developed at the time when this procedure is normally done.

And if I had to to prevent a disease, of course. With lots of anesthesia of course, but still.

musiclover73 11-07-2016 06:44 PM

Cutting off a part of yourself is considered for each person's choice. If you want healthy hygiene you could either do it the hard way and wash daily in and out or you could cut yourself. I'm bless by parents who let me have my own skin. I shower every single day even up to 4 times at extreme times.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1766866)
Some children do die from it. I don't know the exact statistic because it's not something anybody cares to document.

I was referring more to the "Every year boy die" thing than the actually stat, which I don't deny.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1766864)
Those of you who are grateful for your current circumcisions, do you think you would elect to have the procedure done if you still had it as an adult?

I'm glad I had it done as a baby, hard to say though. It's a different procedure as an adult. I'm just glad my cock is pretty and doesn't look like one of the creatures from Tremors.

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:45 PM

Basically, I think of it as a procedure similar to scarification, which is to say it should be an informed decision made by an adult*.

Clarification: Not by a third party adult.

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1766864)
Those of you who are grateful for your current circumcisions, do you think you would elect to have the procedure done if you still had it as an adult?

I understand your point here, but it's kind of irrelevant. Mutilating children because of aesthetic or religious reasons is completely abhorrent.

Edit: I knew you agreed with me, I was making the point for others.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1766866)
Some children do die from it. I don't know the exact statistic because it's not something anybody cares to document.

The same goes for infection, which if not treated could lead to death.

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1766872)
I understand your point here, but it's kind of irrelevant. Mutilating children because of aesthetic or religious reasons is completely abhorrent.

What was my point

I was genuinely asking if it'd affect their decision

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1766873)
The same goes for infection, which if not treated could lead to death.

Let's just agree that life has it out for everything.

Cuthbert 11-07-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1766857)
CHOP IT OFF! My kid's definitely getting the snip snip.

When it comes down to it, it's really just a preference thing but those that have it claim that it's the end of the world not to have it and vice versa on the other side.

It's not that big of a deal in my eyes.

No it's child abuse.

Key 11-07-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1766876)
No it's child abuse.

No it's not.

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:50 PM

Here, earlier I was asking for a source for information on the hygienic aspect of circumcision. Here's one from the WHO (not the band).

"Male circumcision is medically indicated for only a few conditions. There is substantial evidence that cir- cumcised men have a lower risk of some reproductive tract infections, as well as penile cancer, but some of these conditions are rare while others are uncommon or treatable, and routine neonatal circumcision is not currently recommended on medical grounds."

Pg. 26 http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/1...596169_eng.pdf

Please note: I did not carry on and source check this source's sources. I don't have that much energy to devote to the internet.

Tristan_Geoff 11-07-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1766876)
No it's child abuse.

Is cutting off the umbilical cord child abuse as well? Should we wait and see if they want to keep that?

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1766874)
What was my point

I was genuinely asking if it'd affect their decision

Yeah, I understood at the time. Made the edit because my post was unclear.

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766878)
Is cutting off the umbilical cord child abuse as well? Should we wait and see if they want to keep that?

I'm pretty sure it dries up and falls off, or the mother chews it off like a wild animal. In any event, it's a medically necessary separation.

Frownland 11-07-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1766857)
CHOP IT OFF! My kid's definitely getting the snip snip.

When it comes down to it, it's really just a preference thing but those that have it claim that it's the end of the world not to have it and vice versa on the other side.

It's not that big of a deal in my eyes.

It's just an archaic cult thing.

I mean some dude on a mountain ate some bad mushrooms and cut off the tip of his dick and because he's too proud to admit he ****ed up he told everyone it was hot **** and made him closer to God.

The only thing that makes anyone think it's okay is simply a social construct, quite a ****ed one of you ask me.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:53 PM

Say what you want, my penis is prettier than yours.

Frownland 11-07-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1766883)
Say what you want, my penis is prettier than yours.

I'm circumcised too but I guess that the size of mine makes it more intimidating than your cute little redhot.

Doesn't make that **** right though.

Goofle 11-07-2016 06:56 PM

This is kinda fun... if you're a nutcase.


Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 06:57 PM

Ew Huffington Post.

musiclover73 11-07-2016 06:58 PM

I'm 42 years old and I don't see it falling off any time soon. Showering with DOVE for women I might be seen as gay but I'm keeping healthy for myself!

Paedantic Basterd 11-07-2016 06:59 PM

Men have the right to moisturization.


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