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Old 05-07-2018, 06:18 PM   #161 (permalink)
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I'm not cherry picking. This is exactly the point I was making, that music can represent a city more internationally than a sports team can.
It can, but it's not necessarily always so. As was pointed out with Liverpool. So basically, we're both right and I haven't proved your point nor you proved mine. Some people will think of sports teams when thinking of certain cities/states (Dallas I think of Dallas Cowboys obviously, Leicester I think of Leicester City Football Club) and some will think of music (Seattle/Nirvana, Liverpool/Beatles etc).
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:20 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Yeah but I don't know, or care about, any American sports teams. Stop cherrypicking. I already said Barcelona, Madrid, Manchester, all defined by their footy teams.

How? I'll tell you how. Your point was that a "Spanish guy" joining Villa, or any team, doesn't give a **** about anything but getting paid, and I pointed out that these people get involved and make themselves important to the city. You then said something along the lines of "not every player in a [insert city name here] is from that city", and then more or less accepted that it's the same in US sports. So your argument that teams should only be made up of people from that city doesn't stand, and down you go.
I always knew it was the same, you twit! I even just explained my point again and you seemingly ignored it to trumpet your nonsense victory over a soggy strawman.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:23 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Ok, sure, one of the three things I mentioned may not commonplace in Europe. This doesn't change my point at all.
Well I already explained, nobody outside of the East Midlands would have been able to tell you anything about Leicester three years ago. Half of Asia would now though. Of course bands can raise a city's profile internationally, it depends on the band and city, you kind of said it as a general statement that almost always applies. I'd say Leicester's successful team has represented the city more than Kasabian, and that's got a lot to do with it carrying its name. It's certainly brought more money and tourism in.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:24 PM   #164 (permalink)
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I always knew it was the same, you twit! I even just explained my point again and you seemingly ignored it to trumpet your nonsense victory over a soggy strawman.
You love that word, don't you? Maybe you misspelled it? Did you? Ah **** it. I guess you'll never change either. We're a pair, eh?
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Well I already explained, nobody outside of the East Midlands would have been able to tell you anything about Leicester three years ago. Half of Asia would now though. Of course bands can raise a city's profile internationally, it depends on the band and city, you kind of said it as a general statement that almost always applies. I'd say Leicester's successful team has represented the city more than Kasabian, and that's got a lot to do with it carrying its name. It's certainly brought more money and tourism in.
It's also taught the world how ****ing mad the English language is! Can you imagine the Asian newscasters trying to get it right: Ry-kester? Ry-chester? Rie-kester? Accchhhh! [insert Asian cursing for some time here]
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:33 PM   #166 (permalink)
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It can, but it's not necessarily always so. As was pointed out with Liverpool. So basically, we're both right and I haven't proved your point nor you proved mine. Some people will think of sports teams when thinking of certain cities/states (Dallas I think of Dallas Cowboys obviously, Leicester I think of Leicester City Football Club) and some will think of music (Seattle/Nirvana, Liverpool/Beatles etc).
I never said it was always so. I've said it can be so and I think that point has been proven.

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Well I already explained, nobody outside of the East Midlands would have been able to tell you anything about Leicester three years ago. Half of Asia would now though. Of course bands can raise a city's profile internationally, it depends on the band and city, you kind of said it as a general statement that almost always applies. I'd say Leicester's successful team has represented the city more than Kasabian, and that's got a lot to do with it carrying its name. It's certainly brought more money and tourism in.
As someone from outside East Midlands, I can tell you I have no idea what any of that means.
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I think you do.
I really don't.
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I really don't.
Same. "Kasabian" sounds like a terrible Bond villain.
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I really don't.
It means more people are going to associate Leicester with its team than its music. I explained why this is. Probably the only time it has ever been on international news was when its team won the league.
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