DwnWthVwls

Ehh.. technically not. What's natural isn't determined by any human behavior. I think you're crossing the two common usages of the word.

I can understand your usage and agree with the way you use it for discussions sake, but that's not how the word is commonly understood or used.

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Oriphiel

I was adressing both usages, and how no matter which usage people try to argue with, their arguments are still flawed.

In terms of "natural" being a following of naturally occuring behavior, everything humans do is part of that behavior. The towers we build, cars we drive, sex we crave, are all as natural as ants building hills.

And in terms of "natural" being what people should do, an arbitrary state of selective simplicity/innocence, it's incredibly hypocritical for people reaping the benefits of modern science and technology to draw moral lines in the sand against nonviolent things that are as fundamentally valid as other consensual lifestyle choices. Religious extremism has harmed far more people than homosexuality ever will, yet fundamentalists never seem to think of violent zealotry as "unnatural".

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