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The Batlord · 11-21-2020, 08:22 PM

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Do you know your sun sign? If not pls dm me your birthdate and time and location

Ugh. As in current time or birth time or what?

**Marie Monday** · 11-21-2020, 08:23 PM

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That's how I view it - there certainly are people that take it very literally. I'm not deep enough in to know about all the ruling houses and planets being in retrograde or whatever the fuck and my only frame for reference when it comes to constellations is greek mythology lol. That's all beyond me, but if you were to see a practicing astrologist (yeah they exist in hoards in the San Francisco Bay, it's a legit career path) they would have a lot to say about your question.

I think the underlying point to be made about whether it's all nonsense is that we are made of stardust and the alignment of the planets do affect the physical world in measurable ways, so why would they not also affect us?

Greek mythology is a very worthy frame of reference.
I'm convinced astrology isn't valid from a physical point of view (I mean I don't believe in it) but that doesn't mean it can't be interesting, I'm still curious about the ideas behind it.

**Janszoon** · 11-21-2020, 08:44 PM

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About gender and sexual identity: if I get what WWWP means I think that any categorisation of gender or sexuality is artificial and in the ideal case the trend of exploring those things will lead to just abandoning those categories altogether.

This. I've spent a lot of my life trying to pin down who I am on these continua and at some point in the past few years I've realized that I just am who I am and I'm not interested in trying to categorize it.

goldendoodle · 11-21-2020, 08:51 PM

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Omg, so much the bolded, fuck!

I think it's a really good thing to not overanalyze your identity, especially if it's fluid - like maybe who you are changes like the seasons, maybe you're not meant for stasis. That said I know that internally not having that clarity will also drive you mad, particularly because we humans love to categorize things, and see where we fit within those established structures.

I suspect though, that we can't even fathom the intricacies and nuances and endless possibilities of gender identity and sexual orientation because it's never been prioritized as a worthy endeavor, and those that do dig deeper or push the question further are typically ostracized and othered and at best kept on the fringes of society.

Imagine if we valued self discovery as a species as much as we do military prowess, or keeping up with the Jones'. I think that is changing, (god bless gen z ily) albeit slowly, and I'm glad to be a witness. What a damn shame of a setback though, like the Dark Ages of introspection.

Sorry I'm not smoking weed right now and this is what my brain does not on drugs, I could keep going until I've answered all my own questions lmao

Welp Marie basically summed up my thoughts on this, soo-- ASTROLOGY! Yes everyone pls DM WWWP (or me) your birth time, place and location info pls.

Having Leo in TWO of the 'big three' placement sounds interesting. Bat has Leo, gemini (or libra?) and capricorn energy IMO. (If I HAD to guess, I'd say an air moon and earth ascendant) Hrmmmm as for Marie... I would guess that there's a good amount of aquarius, virgo and cancer in her chart (maybe an aquarius ascendant??), but I'm probably wrong! I just say things.

Have you found that certain sun signs seem to flock to you/you can't get rid of them? In the past I was constantly surrounded by geminis. I probably had the least experience with scorpios, but my current bf is a scorpio (and also has Venus in scorpio.)

I wish I knew more about vedic and draconic astrology. They both seem more interesting than western astrology. Not that I necessarily believe in any of it, though I do regularly see things that are far too on-the-nose when skimming through some of the auto-generated long natal chart report interpretations on sites like Cafeastrology. I especially like the borderline-insulting bits they'll throw at you.

adidasss · 11-21-2020, 09:21 PM

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This. I've spent a lot of my life trying to pin down who I am on these continua and at some point in the past few years I've realized that I just am who I am and I'm not interested in trying to categorize it.

You're queer? By that I mean, whatever is not a cis-hetero male?

~~jwb~~ · 11-21-2020, 10:48 PM

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What I've come to understand is that if something doesn't resonate with you it can just be tossed aside, that message was for someone else. But your Big Three can be read interchangeably, and if you found one thing more relatable than the others, maybe that's where your focus should be. None of this really matters or means anything independent from you, you decide what to do with it, and you get back whatever you put in.

if something doesn't register you toss it aside and if it does you take it as a sign from the stars? Does that actually sound reasonable to you?

WWWP · 11-22-2020, 01:39 AM

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if something doesn't register you toss it aside and if it does you take it as a sign from the stars? Does that actually sound reasonable to you?

I didn't say anything about signs from the stars! You take what is intrinsically meaningful to you in whichever way it may be meaningful and scrap the rest. It's like putting quarters into those $.50 machines -- if you get a sticker you think is rad and makes you inspired in some way, or helps shift your perspective just enough to have a new idea about how to approach a problem, etc. you keep it, if you get a lame ring or something you throw it away, you don't need it and it doesn't serve you. I'm just saying I suspend my disbelief enough to allow for the possibility of there being some cosmic link between the things that exist in the universe.

The Batlord · 11-22-2020, 03:42 AM

Or it's just a game of Rorschach and pretending you believe in cosmic links is just a way to not feel like a little kid playing make believe.

**Marie Monday** · 11-22-2020, 06:14 AM

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oh also I remembered I'd forgotten to watch this in all the chaos
it's got to be one of the most goofy things I've ever seen

The Batlord · 11-22-2020, 10:07 AM

Batman is life. You are ****.