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Old 06-25-2022, 02:52 PM   #1401 (permalink)
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I didn't know we had two Norwegians on the boards.

Yes, quite sad and scary. A stark reminder that even in the developed world, there are still plenty of people who want to harm others who are different than them.

Btw, Norway is starting to build up a surprising number of these gun violence incidents, for Europe.
Well this would be the worst one in 11 years (since the 22 July terrorist attack). But yeah, fingers crossed we don't break any such record again anytime soon

this is however the first time that the Norwegian LGBT+ community has been explicitly targeted in this way. Even though the death toll in Orlando, FL was significantly higher, it just hits closer to home when it's your own country, and one that you would think had gotten further than the US in regards to queer liberation
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Old 06-25-2022, 06:43 PM   #1402 (permalink)
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Can we pause for a moment and focus on religion being a prime fountainhead for homophobia ? Given recent revelations of rampant pedophilia within various branches of Christianity how dare any church,including other religions, lecture us on sexual morality .

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Old 06-26-2022, 06:09 PM   #1403 (permalink)
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I didn't know we had two Norwegians on the boards.
Yes, quite sad and scary. A stark reminder that even in the developed world, there are still plenty of people who want to harm others who are different than them.
But this so called developed world is hanging onto the delusion organised religions and their so called holy books must never have their chapter and verse criticised.
If I may be so politically ‘incorrect’ as to quote just one nasty passage from the Koran :-


”Oh Lord! Let not our hearts to go astray after that thouhast once guided us, and give us mercy from before thee; for verily thou art He who guideth.
O our Lord! For the day of whose coming there is not a doubt, thou wilt not fail the promise.
As for the inifidels, their wealth, and their children, shall avail them nothing against God. They shall be fuel for the fire.
After the want of the people of Pharoah, and of those who went before them, they treated our signs as falsehoods. Therefore God laid hold of them in their sins; and God is severe in punishing!
Say to the infidels: ye shale be worsted, and to Hell shall be gathered together; and wretched the couch!

Koran Sura 3 V 6 - 10.

There are equally nasty passages in the Bible but biblical scholars have been openly questioning and criticising scripture for centuries without being burnt at the stake or stoned to death.

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Old 06-26-2022, 11:41 PM   #1404 (permalink)
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But this so called developed world is hanging onto the delusion organised religions and their so called holy books must never have their chapter and verse criticised.
You may need to update your knowledge about Norway.
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Old 06-26-2022, 11:59 PM   #1405 (permalink)
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You may need to update your knowledge about Norway.
More and more nations will gradually come to the conclusion many Norwegians have. At this point it could go either way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_Norway

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Here’s something to make some of you fairies drool. The Sydney Convicts rugby team. Winners of the first international rugby competition in San Fancisco. (?) Two of my closest friends were on the team. They now have two boys and are living in Spain after a narrow escape from Hong Kong.
https://sydneyconvicts.org/news/the-...c-2608552.html
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Old 06-27-2022, 03:25 AM   #1407 (permalink)
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More and more nations will gradually come to the conclusion many Norwegians have. At this point it could go either way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_Norway
Oh I'm glad someone takes up the local islamophobe mantel from Hawk in the name of lgbt support \s
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Oh I'm glad someone takes up the local islamophobe mantel from Hawk in the name of lgbt support \s
My opposition to organised religion is fuelled by more than lgbt issues. My approach is one of skeptical agnosticism towards any group claiming God is speaking through them or they’re acting for and on behalf of the Creator/Almighty/ or whatever you want to call him/she/it. If such an entity exists it’s so far beyond our understanding any claim we know what it is/what it wants of us can be no more than over-weaning arrogance of a monumental order.
That is unless you can’t discern the difference between knowledge and faith. If so there really is little point in discussing all this.

Why is it our species has this urgent need to pretend we fully understand the reality we find ourselves in? It may be comforting to millions, it may be one method of influencing human behaviour for good or ill but is it really necessary at this stage of our evolution?

Who is this Hawk ? Are you suggesting I’m an Islamophobe? If so be prepared to discuss Sura and verse of the Koran in detail.


“And follow not that which of which thou hast no knowledge; because the hearing and the sight and the heart, - each of these shal be enquired of:
And walk not proudly on the earth, for thou canst not cleave the earth, neither shali thou reach the mountains in height:
All this is evil; odious to thr Lord.”
Koran, Sura 17. V 38 - 40.

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Old 06-27-2022, 07:15 AM   #1409 (permalink)
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More and more nations will gradually come to the conclusion many Norwegians have. At this point it could go either way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_Norway
Yeah because all of the frothing reactionaries mentioned in this article are sooo concerned about the well-being of gay people
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Who is this Hawk ?


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She's referring to OccultHawk, one of the more interesting members of our forum.

And, yeah, he wasn't too crazy about Muslims.
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