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OccultHawk 05-02-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2115667)
I never claimed to be above humanity's stupidity but at least I'm not putting other people in danger.

Yes, you are. You’re being forced to but you’re still doing it.

The Batlord 05-02-2020 03:18 PM

Well yeah but I'm not rationalizing it. My work should not be open because we are not in fact essential, just a convenience that the populace isn't willing to let go of and the establishment probably gets kickbacks from to make sure we're called essential.

OccultHawk 05-02-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2115678)
Well yeah but I'm not rationalizing it. My work should not be open because we are not in fact essential, just a convenience that the populace isn't willing to let go of and the establishment probably gets kickbacks from to make sure we're called essential.

I hear you. When I’m called back in I’ll go too. Afaic that makes us the Vietnam vets who deserved to be spit on.

The Batlord 05-02-2020 03:35 PM

At least everyone else deserves to be spit on too.

OccultHawk 05-02-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2115683)
At least everyone else deserves to be spit on too.

Hiding behind numbers makes our cowardice even more pathetic.

The Batlord 05-02-2020 03:54 PM

But not distinct.

Psy-Fi 05-02-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2115678)
Well yeah but I'm not rationalizing it. My work should not be open because we are not in fact essential, just a convenience that the populace isn't willing to let go of and the establishment probably gets kickbacks from to make sure we're called essential.


OccultHawk 05-02-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2115695)

One of the most prophetic album titles ever.

OccultHawk 05-02-2020 07:17 PM

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An emergency proclamation requiring face masks in stores and restaurants in Stillwater, Oklahoma, was nixed after store and restaurant owners received threats
-CNN

How much of this **** are we supposed to let slide?

If they threaten you for insisting they wear a mask they win even they they’re increasing the likelihood of actually killing people. But if you threaten a person for not wearing a mask which is life-threatening negligence you will go to jail.

OccultHawk 05-04-2020 03:28 AM

India is up to 1400 counted deaths which is just slightly more than the state of Florida

Incredibly Florida is being touted as a success

Infections and deaths aren’t even on a decline but since the beach is open I guess we won

Never mind that the nursing homes and prisons have been ravished with new cases over the last couple weeks

People are like how did we beat it compared to NY. As if it’s not obviously just a matter of time. They’ve had it longer. People’s ability to deny is just incredible. 100 dead at a single nursing home in NY but somehow that’s not waiting for us in Florida even though we’re still working our way up exponentially and opening up the economy.

And NY itself. People just chilling at the park. Whatever dude. Sorry grandma. Wait until your blood clots you selfish ****s. This **** has so got a round two.

Exo 05-04-2020 12:16 PM

Dana's cousin and his kids stopped by the house. We're down the shore at Dana's parents "beach" house. They were in the area. I didn't leave the deck and they didn't come inside. I could tell the kids thought that was weird. Dana went down by them but I wouldn't. I didn't feel comfortable. I told myself the other day that I can't stop people from doing what they do but I can make my own decisions about myself and that's what I'm doing. I don't care. There's an inherent risk that Dana took by going down to see them and I'm going to lump that into the inherent risk we all take whether it be going to the grocery store, pharmacy, going for a walk, or getting gas. Still, I'm standing my ground for now on these things. I feel weird doing it though.

Basically this post is an example of how hard simple decisions are to make without being an anti-lockdown protester or completely locked in non murderer OH. The inbetween is hard.

Mindfulness 05-04-2020 12:51 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zn6Xthdy_w

OccultHawk 05-04-2020 12:57 PM

Ffs why is trump still getting a goddamn platform

Bill Maher made a good joke:

My grandmother told me never to take medical advice from a clown wearing orange face paint.

Anteater 05-04-2020 07:57 PM

Disturbing.


OccultHawk 05-04-2020 08:15 PM

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us family 'murdered shop guard for enforcing mask policy'
a woman has been charged along with her husband and son with killing a security guard who refused her daughter entry to a shop because she was not wearing a face covering.
bbc

Frownland 05-04-2020 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2116042)
Disturbing.


Seems like something done in response to a lack of resources and knowledge to determine the cause of death but who knows. Hopefully they're asterisked for later investigation to improve data.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 01:38 AM

It’s been made clear that Covid is uniquely problematic for the already vulnerable many many times so to try to make the case that the death toll is exaggerated because of that holds very little water. It’s very clear that overall mortality rates have skyrocketed and in the United ****holes of America worse than anywhere else in the world. As usual.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 03:16 AM

Your apartment complex gives out health alerts?

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 03:46 AM

Fair enough

I’m still guessing that it’s the second or third infection that really gets you. Either that or just less and more lethal strains going around. Maybe having had a less lethal strain provides temporary immunity until the more lethal strain hits. There’s no question that asymptomatic or nearly asymptomatic spread has been widespread. But why there’s so much death and criticals here and not there is hard to figure. The longer it’s been manifesting in your community the higher the likelihood of having gotten it twice if that’s how it works.

Btw these stories are popping up all over

Michigan man wipes nose on dollar store employee’s shirt after being told to wear mask



I don’t know wtf is wrong with the people up in Michigan but that piece of trash needs to be killed. It’s not even fair to a normal prisoner to have to share a building with that murderous ****. He should just be taken out and shot right in the ****ing head.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 04:03 AM

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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Tuesday that the coronavirus probably originated in a wildlife market in China, but he couldn’t discount the possibility that it escaped from a virology lab.
Morrison’s remarks came after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday that there was “enormous evidence” that the coronavirus was linked to a research laboratory in Wuhan, the center of the global outbreak. U.S. intelligence officials have not confirmed that claim, which has also been leveled by President Trump, and the World Health Organization on Monday dismissed the theory as “speculative.”
-Washington Post

“Enormous evidence” my ass. There’s no more evidence for that than my pulled out of my ass theory about multiple infections. Pompeo has such a hard on for starting a war with China it’s unbelievable. As long as we’re just making **** up maybe America unleashed it near the lab in Wuhan to frame China. Maybe a Syrian terrorist did it to start trouble between the major powers. Maybe it was Louis Farrakhan. Or the Dalai Lama seeking revenge for Tibet.

Psy-Fi 05-05-2020 05:50 AM

Miami Beach park closes after nearly 9,000 Covidiots violate face mask policy

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2116087)

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There is no way to effectively enforce social distancing when hundreds of individuals refuse to do so
Oh there’s a real ****ing simple way, actually

jwb 05-05-2020 08:13 AM

Just heard an ad on the radio that said if you can't find a face mask then use a bandana. Remember when they were telling us not to bother with face masks cause they don't work anyway?

On a semi related note, it seems like now would be a great time to rob a store.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2116099)
Just heard an ad on the radio that said if you can't find a face mask then use a bandana. Remember when they were telling us not to bother with face masks cause they don't work anyway?

Yes. I said that was ****ing bull****. Later Frown gave me a cookie.
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On a semi related note, it seems like now would be a great time to rob a store.
Damn son, for real.

Frownland 05-05-2020 08:29 AM

Masks mitigate spread but don't protect you from infection, which is what people were stocking up on them for during the beginning of the pandemic. This remains true.

Dr_Rez 05-05-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2116102)
Masks mitigate spread but don't protect you from infection, which is what people were stocking up on them for during the beginning of the pandemic. This remains true.

I wouldnt say they dont protect you at all from infection, just that it is a negligible and minute amount. Anything in from of your mouth and nose is going to help to some degree, it is just a matter of is it enough to even warrant doing it.

jwb 05-05-2020 08:38 AM

Yeah but why is it a necessity to wear them now but not at the beginning?

I know more people have it now, but if we were wearing them all along maybe it would've spread less...

Exo 05-05-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2116105)
Yeah but why is it a necessity to wear them now but not at the beginning?

I know more people have it now, but if we were wearing them all along maybe it would've spread less...

Put me in the group of people who were wrong about masks in the beginning. I think Faucci even goofed that one up.

Frownland 05-05-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2116105)
Yeah but why is it a necessity to wear them now but not at the beginning?

I know more people have it now, but if we were wearing them all along maybe it would've spread less...

Yep, but people only cared about themselves in the beginning and also now.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2116105)
Yeah but why is it a necessity to wear them now but not at the beginning?

I know more people have it now, but if we were wearing them all along maybe it would've spread less...

Ain’t no maybe about it.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2116102)
Masks mitigate spread but don't protect you from infection, which is what people were stocking up on them for during the beginning of the pandemic. This remains true.

nothing will ever convince me a barrier doesn’t work both ways

Frownland 05-05-2020 08:56 AM

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OccultHawk 05-05-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2116109)
I've heard that they wanted healthcare workers to have them

Yes. But they lied saying they don’t help. If health care workers needed them first and they did they should’ve just been honest about it. The claim that it works for healthcare workers but not other people was stupid and implausible and was just another thing that has undermined our trust in the government.

Frownland 05-05-2020 09:00 AM

They never said that N-95s don't protect the wearer.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2116111)

You’re clever and very quick witted. You’re smarter than I am but I’m not wrong on this one.

jwb 05-05-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2116109)
I've heard that they wanted healthcare workers to have them

So what happened, the supply increased and now we have enough to go around? Cause of course we still want healthcare workers to have them yet we also want everyone else to have them too now.

And even if there was a shortage, now they are tell telling people a mask that is made from a bandana or sock is still better than nothing...

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2116113)
They never said that N-95s don't protect the wearer.

Surgeon General back then:

“Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!

They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”

Sorry I’m not impressed by N-95 loophole.

The bolded was a flat out lie.

OccultHawk 05-05-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2116115)
So what happened, the supply increased and now we have enough to go around? Cause of course we still want healthcare workers to have them yet we also want everyone else to have them too now.

And even if there was a shortage, now they are tell telling people a mask that is made from a bandana or sock is still better than nothing...

Because any barrier is better than no barrier. You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Psy-Fi 05-05-2020 09:11 AM

I'd like to see a resurgence of the plague doctor mask...




Frownland 05-05-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2116116)
Surgeon General back then:

“Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!

They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”

Sorry I’m not impressed by N-95 loophole.

The bolded was a flat out lie.

Sorry that you're not impressed by reality.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2116118)
Because any barrier is better than no barrier. You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Rubbing milk on your skin provides some level of sun protection, but milk ain't gonna keep you from getting a sunburn.


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