My guess is we'll be taking an annual covid shot much like we're taking the flu shot now.

Boy are they going to be in for a shock :rofl:

Florida radio host Marc Bernier, 65, who called himself 'Mr Anti-Vax' becomes third broadcaster to die from Covid-19 after publicly criticising vaccine

One of them, Dick Farrel, I worked with for a bit. I liked him personally, and I'm grateful that he helped me in a number of ways, but he had some pretty crazy views. He was a huge Rush Limbaugh fan.

The US government, of course. Y'all's goin' crayzay.

Yes, this sounds about right.. although I never got a flu shot.

Silver lining, I suppose.

Yeah, I've predicted that as a likelihood since the beginning. The virus can obviously mutate easily enough that different strains are likely to keep going to keep going around a la the flu.

I've never had a flu shot either.

But you better believe I'll keep getting the covid shots as needed.

Mississippi Burning?

I get the flu shot every year FYI. Have to, for Karen. It's nothing, and it's free too, so if I have to get a Covid booster every year, so what?

More like CYA.

How y'all feeling about gyms during delta?

I'm not particularly paranoid about covid in general but here I do feel weird being in an unventilated basement where everybody breathes as intensely as possible and social distancing is not a thing. No masks either, it's impossible to train in one.

The gym has a vaccine pass policy plus there's a very high rate of vaccination where I am rn. So it's likely perfectly safe, but I still feel a certain unease knowing that these are the conditions that are literally ideal for spread.

Yeah not sure about that. I was going pre-Delta and pre-vaccine, but now that the cases have been 20k+ in Malaysia for the past couple of months it's a whole different ball game.

I buckled and got some home gym equipment because in any case, the gyms are closed here and I have no idea when they will be opened.

Even if they do, I guess I'd do what I did before, avoid the rush hour if at all possible. We also have a gym in the condo with decent equipment that hardly anyone ever uses. I would do with that for the time being...:/

I've always kept weird hours so I'm no stranger to going to the gym at 3am, except 24/7 gyms is not really a thing where I am, especially seeing as everything that worked 24/7 pre-pandemic seems to have shifted to like 9am to 9pm.

Never lived in a building with a gym. Now seems like a good idea, though probably completely out of my price range.

It's a thing in 3rd world countries, almost every condo has it (and a pool, because tropics).

Working from home has/had its advantages. When I could, I just went in the afternoon before 5pm.

Is the pool water super warm though?

No, just right. I suppose because it's filtered. It wasn't super warm in the Middle east either, even in the middle of summer (when it's 40+C every day), but maybe they were cooling it there. The sea in the Arabian gulf in the summer was like piss though. Totally useless. Also here it's too warm for my liking, one of the downsides of the tropics I guess. Doesn't cool you off. I only found it cool in Lombok, Indonesia in May after the rainy season, or maybe they have some currents there.

Personally, I wouldn't take the risk, jadis, even though I'm (double) vaccinated. But then I'm (i) super cautious and (ii) prefer outdoor exercise.
MB can probably put you in touch with a disc golf player if you want ;)

Tried doing the outdoor thing during lockdowns, dunno. You walk, you do some push-ups, maybe kick a soccer ball against the wall, end up feeling stupid and go back inside...

For all the limitations of the gym (I remember thinking I was pretty fit for years cause I kept up with it, and then trying to play soccer with guys in the park and finding out I'm like barely mobile and forgot how to make sudden motions), it does keep your back healthy and other things I need as someone leading a sedentary lifestyle.

I guess I'll get some weights online or something (not terribly useful since the entire idea of lifting is that you can adjust and increase the weights but marginally better than nothing I guess).

I got 2 of these, 24kg each, great for saving space. There is a heavier option but for me they are ok to maintain some level of fitness.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/up...zV8-768-80.jpg

Coupled with a bench and a dip station a la:

https://contents.mediadecathlon.com/...jpg?&f=800x800

I am quite happy, you can do quite a lot of things. Beats doing just bodyweight pushups and lunges at home anyway.

Meh, I get all the exercise I need by jumping to conclusions, stretching the truth, running out of patience and lifting my eyebrows. That does me.

Haha! One of your best Trollheart! You forgot "spinning yarns" and "weighing options" but perhaps they are not part of your regular workout.

Where I live, loads of parks have areas like this:-

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...3LsaA&usqp=CAU

...but I never use them myself, or see them being used. Partly because it's too hot, but also, as you say, jadis, people "end up feeling stupid" - which is true but strange, given that you are doing something healthy.

This is exactly what I need, thanks very much! :bowdown:

Fashion in the era of covid:
What the well-dressed anti-vaccer is wearing this fall:

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...arge-tease.jpg

So in addition to putting others at risk due to their selfishness/stubborness/idiocy, they also are happy to endanger lives by wearing large sharp objects on top of their heads? Lends new meaning to the term prickhead, which I just made up and own copyright on, in perpetuity and in all territories, known or unknown, including any new dimensions discovered in the future.

well im vully vaxxed unwillingy but whatever

it is true the worst side effect is some nights my heart feels deff heavy like a grizzly bear is stepping on my chest its kinda scary but it usually goes away

im deff heard the stories of younger males 30 below on having heart issues ,strokes heart attack enlargment etc etc after getting vaxxed


if i end up having to get heart stints this will really suck ballz

It may just be anxiety/nocebo.

I see very little reason to worry about side effects. For sure, covid is much much more likely to lead to a wealth of health problems.

Don't read vaccine scare propaganda.

yeah your prob right im just broadcasting on how i currently feel

i got my 2nd shot on Fri ...its about day 4 i feel pretty fine ....and i wouldnt say a grizzly bear more like a small cat

i thinking working out on sunday didnt help so ill prob not work out for about 6 days like people have reccomended

i agree anixety fear whatever def plays apart in anything and if it can be controlled that would be for the best

like most people i suffered from anxiety and depression in my 20's and i beat it the one thing that helped alllooott was working out and gaining a strong mind

there was no better feeling then after a hard workout dripping sweat battered but yet some how felt alive

Yep. Strong mind.

I suffered from panic disorder in my teens which I was able to combat relatively quickly once I had an understanding of what was going on. After the panic attacks were gone, I did have some lingering anxiety, mostly focused on health related issues, so I think I know how this feels.

Something that I believe helped me was learning about the philosophy of critical thinking as part of my science background and that really appealed to me. So whatever I thought I was experiencing, I seldom bought into my worst fears. I always tried to battle it with rationality.

In the end, the health anxiety had fizzled out, although that took many years, maybe 15 or so. The amount of years it was a powerful presence in my day to day life was much less. Now I no longer feel like that's part of who I am.

Yes, some physical exercise and a rational approach really help to keep our anxieties at bay, I think.

As covid drags on, with debates raging about masks/schools and vaccines, it's easy to lose sight of how things really stand. That's why this statistic surprised me:
US covid deaths are averaging 1500 a day. Remember 9/11? That much-lamented death toll is now happening every 2 days in the US.

By the same token, we've had just over 5000 deaths in what a year and a half about? That means we've experienced less than four days of deaths over that period compared to America. Yes we're a smaller country but it still gives you an idea of what a mess things are in the US of A.

Luckily the Grand Canyon is the world's largest pre-dug mass grave.

At the peak, the US was almost doubling the WTC death toll daily. I'm lucky to be living in Maryland. We're averaging maybe ten deaths a day and we're about an average state population wise. Yes, it's bad, but it could be a lot worse.

Norway is relatively tiny country in terms of population with a count of roughly 5,33 million in 2019.

We have 823 covid deaths so far from 168 469 known cases which is about 0,48% mortality.

The US has 40 866 998 confirmed cases with 666 608 deaths, so that's a mortality rate of about 1,63.

So if you're in the US and get covid, it seems your chances of dying are quite a bit higher than they are here.

(source = worldometers.info)

seems like joe rogen got covid and took HIgh dose of Vit C IV and some other drug the one trump took and he was fine in less then 24 hours

thats kinda intresting u think that works on other people ..???

He took a ****load of **** none of us can afford. I hear what probably helped was monoclonal antibodies, which cost thousands of dollars.

Tbh though he probably just got the vaccine and is lying about it to play to his dip**** listeners.

He totally got a vaccine. Joe Rogan is a character now. He's become like his best friend Alex Jones.

Speaking of ivermectin...

Oklahoma Doctor At Center Of Viral Ivermectin Story Says Report Is Wrong